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Does anyone have Bingos in their pin collection?

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Nov 24, 2007, 11:32:23 PM

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It seems like pinball guys mostly hate Bingos (the words "boring" and
"worthless" come up most often), but I'm curious if anyone here has a Bingo
or 2 in their pin collection? I have always been intrigued by
them...probably from not fully understanding them or having played much. I
recently acquired one that someone local was giving away with the intention
of learning something new both fix-it wise and gameplay wise. Haven't had
the time or space to dig into it yet, but I just love the way it looks and
the "mystery" of it's workings...can't hardly wait to tinker with it. I'm
wondering if it will find a permanent home in my pin collection or if it
will go back on Craigslist to another curious tinkerer like myself? Only
time will tell, but I had to ask the group to see if there are any "closet"
Bingo owners amongst us? :)
Chris

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nomad

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Nov 25, 2007, 12:13:30 AM

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I have one but have not got around to trying to get it to work. If you
ask me these games are some of the most complex machines ever built.
They are EM pinballs on steroids. I mean they are basically gambling
machines and the idea was to make $$$$ so they had to make mechanical
machines that performed in favor of the house and that were also
random-ized. When I open the back of mine up I am just floored that
they could get these games to do what they do.

nomad

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Nov 25, 2007, 5:46:26 AM

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if you get your bingo working read the instruction cards carefully and
really figure out what it is you can do with this game. I am a pinball
collector and dont have a bingo yet bet am trying hard to find one

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Nov 25, 2007, 8:06:25 AM

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I have four. However, due to space constraints, two are set up and two
are in storage. Once you get one and then realize that there were five
major categories of bingos, you'll want to have at least one of each.

Magic Squares
Magic Screen (with OK)
20 Hole
Magic Lines-Miss America type
Six Card (Three card is similar)

I have no Magic Squares model as the lower amout of point/replays/
nickles possible make them less appealing to me. Then there lower
quantity specialty games such as:

Mystic Gate
Big Wheel
18 hole-Miss Universe (3 ball)

This is as adictive as flipper pinball!

I higly recommend getting a copy of Jeffrey Lawton's Bally Bingo
Pinball Machines book to get up to speed. I'll admit, the circuitry
in side these things are what first got me interested in them. Amazing
stuff. Heavy backboxes too.

Bally's Don Hooker was a mathematics and design genius.

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frog

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Nov 25, 2007, 8:16:13 AM

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I have a few in progress. They are a neat novelty, and I echo what
someone else said, look for magic square games with OK feature, or the 20
holers, which have more features. Silver Sails and Golden Gate are two
highly desirable games. The 6 card and older 3 card games are simple and
in my opinion get stale rapidly.
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Nov 25, 2007, 8:18:14 AM

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And I forgot to mention, that some machines from Nevada actually at one
point had payout hoppers installed on them. I'd like to find one of these.
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chuckster

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Nov 25, 2007, 9:16:47 AM

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I have a Bingo and it is an amazing "work of art" for the early era of
arcade machines. I had fun and made some money playing these machines
when I was in High School. Boring (to the guests)?? YES! However they
are fun to work on and can be had at a nice price, My suggestion is to
find a cheap one ($100 to $300) and start working on it, wiring
diagrams, manuals and parts are still available and the guys who
collect these (mostly older 50+) are more than willing to help you out
with finding parts and technical help. I purchased a few Bingo parts
from Flea Bay and the "personal e mails" I got were unbelievable from
guys who were involved with Bingos and they were just looking to
"network" about Bingos. I purchased a nice one that had a ball lift
problem and all that was wrong with it was the previous owner
installed pinball sized balls in it, I purchased the proper sized
balls from Pinball Life and it worked perfect. Buy one and work on it
over the cold winter months, Hell, if you grow tired of it or can't
fix it, sell it for parts or toss it away consider it an "educational
experience".
No EM collection should be without one.


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> And I forgot to mention, that some machines from Nevada actually at one

> point had payout hoppers installed on them. I'd like to find one of these.<americannleag...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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Nov 25, 2007, 11:50:59 AM

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I have a small flipper collection(9) and a bingo collection from about
50 different ones. The old Bally bingo's are a nice piece of work, but
there's a lot of training needed to fix them! I like to play bingo
once in a while but it's something completely different than a
flipper.
The reason that I have a lot of bingo's is cause my dad loves them and
they're real cheap compared to a flipper!
I like it to restorate such projects, it really gives a lot of
satisfaction when you can fix such a complicated machine :))

The mechanical Bally ones are not real gambling machines compared to
the electronic bingo's. The EM's are fun, the mechanical bingo's are
more machines of skill and the electronical ones are made on such way
that skill doesn't matter anymore... Shame!

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Jim D. in TN

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Nov 25, 2007, 1:17:35 PM

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On Nov 25, 2:32 am, "greenacarina" <greenacar...@verizon.net> wrote:
> are any "closet" Bingo owners amongst us?

I have one, a 196? Bally Single Coin. This was an operator converted
game to get around gambling laws. Mine came from Pennsylvania. See
http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=4982&picno=21591

I prefer my payout game, a 1939 Bally Pick-Em payout game. There's
something about coins tumbling out. See http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1783&picno=25418&zoom=1

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Nov 25, 2007, 7:15:10 PM

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On Nov 25, 1:17 pm, "Jim D. in TN" <jd_12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 25, 2:32 am, "greenacarina" <greenacar...@verizon.net> wrote:
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> > are any "closet" Bingo owners amongst us?
>
> I have one, a 196? Bally Single Coin. This was an operator converted

> game to get around gambling laws. Mine came from Pennsylvania. Seehttp://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=4982&picno=21591


>
> I prefer my payout game, a 1939 Bally Pick-Em payout game. There's
> something about coins tumbling out. Seehttp://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1783&picno=25418&zoom=1

And I have a HUO (that's right, HUO) Silver Sails that I hope to put
on E-Bay this weekend...... I'll post to the group when it is up and
running....

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Bad Bob

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Nov 26, 2007, 12:07:48 AM

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I also have a few bingos. Dixieland is one. Heaviest head I ever
lifted. Never won a game, you can play 40 coins per game, took it
down and there they sit. Think it's been about 12 years. Most
complex EM I've ever seen. Wms Grand Prix is a shadow compared to a
Bingo. Bought the Bingos in a semiload of pins etc. from an op in
Montana. He had just put them out when they became illegal so are in
very nice shape. I remember seeing a nickel bingo on location in
Wyoming when I was working there back in the early 70's. One guy
would play it all night with rolls of nickels on the PF glass. Never
got the chance to play it.
Keep your eyes on the magic screen, Bad Bob

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Del

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Nov 26, 2007, 1:31:14 AM

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I don't own one, but might if the right one came along. I did buy a
couple em's from a guy, that had a old single coin bingo that was in
real nice shape. I don't know why, but I played like 10-15 games on
it before I knew what happened.
I actually thought it was fun. Nice change in his gameroom. TOTALLY
different than pinball. Like comparing chinese checkers to checkers.

Del

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Nov 26, 2007, 3:29:16 AM

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On Nov 25, 4:17 pm, "Jim D. in TN" <jd_12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 25, 2:32 am, "greenacarina" <greenacar...@verizon.net> wrote:
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> > are any "closet" Bingo owners amongst us?
>
> I have one, a 196? Bally Single Coin. This was an operator converted

> game to get around gambling laws. Mine came from Pennsylvania. Seehttp://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=4982&picno=21591


>
> I prefer my payout game, a 1939 Bally Pick-Em payout game. There's
> something about coins tumbling out. Seehttp://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1783&picno=25418&zoom=1

I've got a couple of those Single Coins that I picked up in PA also.
I haven't done anything with them yet.

I don't quite get what the backglass was all about. It sure doesn't
go with the bowling pins on the playfield. I wish I had the other
version shown where they left most of the Shoot-A-Line backglass
intact but just changed the name.

Steve Yates

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Vic Camp

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Nov 26, 2007, 6:56:12 AM

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Here is something to read concerning bingo pinball machines and why
they are so interesting to us collectors. Bingo pinball machines are
fantastic! It
is totally different then playing a flipper pinball game.Don't get me
wrong I collect and like
pinball machines too.I have 24 gottlieb wedgeheads and play them just
as much as my bingo's,but playing a bingo takes a little more
thinking
and require much more skill. I have 4 bingo pinballs set up for play
in my collection of
32 games and can't say which one is the best. I lean towards the six
card bingo's
(FOR HOME USE) because they are
easy to understand and you don't have to sit there and put in 50
coins
to play one game.With the six card games you have alot of winning
combinations and almost always end up winning free games
everytime.The
six card games are easy and cheaper to find too.Most of the bingo
collectors would rather have a turning corners,magic screen,moving
lines,or even a game like Gayety and Gay Time which the balls will
jump from hole to hole (back & forth) on the top row from numbers 1
thru 7.I favor the six card games a little because they are the games
I remember playing in the past and have sentimental reasons for
liking
them.It doesn't make them better than any other bingo's.I have been
playing bingo pinballs for 32 years now and most of the games I
played
were Lite a Line,Ticker Tape,Blue Chip,High Flyer,
Nashiville,Dixielands.I did play a Dude Ranch as a young boy on the
boardwalk in seaside hts N.J. in 1967.Today I have only 3 six card
bingo's
in my collection. They are 1961 Lite a Line,1979 Dixieland,and a
digital bingo machine that was made in Belgium called New
Contintental
Golden.The New Continental Golden is my favorite bingo out of the
six card bingo's because you can go try for 3 extra balls which is
not
the normal in six card bingo's except for Frolics.The Continental
golden also has many features added in the game like 3 or 4 or 5 in a
line on the playfield wins, 23, 24, 25 when lit also wins,or a bonus
game
where if you get the 4 10 16 20 and 24 also wins.It also has plenty
more features that the normal six card game doesn't have.The pay out
on the Continental is big too.You can win as much as 5000 quarters in
one game.Some of this may sound a little complicated but really isn't
once you get a bingo and learn how to play it for a while.The best
thing to do is get the book Bally Bingo Pinball Machines by Jeffery
Lawton which will help you a great deal to understanding these
wonderful machines.I also have had games like Gayety,Nite
Club,Varitey,Miss Bowling
Turbo,Bikini.The Bikini is my favorite out of the other bingo's.I
like
Bikini because it is a magic screen game with the OK score feature
and
Futurity game.The Futurity game even after shuting off the machine
and
not playing it for days will still be there for you when you return
to
play again.Bikini is up near the top of the list of great bingo
machines.Bingo players know there is nothing sweeter than the sound
of
hundreds of free games racking up on the backbox replay counter.
Everyone, have fun with what ever bingo you play!
Vic


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> > I've been toying with the idea of picking up an older bingo machine, mostly
> > because I would get a kick out of trying to get an electro-mechanical
> > monstrosity like that working properly. (Yes, some of us in this hobby get
> > our kicks in strange ways!)

> > However, I can't help but feel that once I was done working on the game,
> > playing it would be extremely boring. Any there any arguments to the
> > contrary, or is bingo best suited for smoke-filled rooms where bartenders
> > dispense payouts under the counter?


> Well, it definitely isn't regular pinball. Think about a machine that
> has a manual plunger and a skill shot (CF*TBL, for example). Then
> imagine that all the entire game is that one motion, and you pretty
> much have a bingo.


> Ever played pachinko? Did you like it? Did it hold your interest?
> If you said no to either one of those questions, you'll probably be
> bored stupid by a bingo.


> I guess a bingo would be great fun if it was paying out, but
> otherwise, it's kind of like playing a slot machine for non-redeemable
> tokens... Why bother? :)

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On Nov 25, 2:32 am, "greenacarina" <greenacar...@verizon.net> wrote:

> It seems likepinballguys mostly hate Bingos (the words "boring" and

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Nov 26, 2007, 8:14:07 AM

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On Nov 26, 6:29 am, Steve Yates <stevegoo...@whosgotlunch.com> wrote:
> I've got a couple of those Single Coins that I picked up in PA also.

> I don't quite get what the backglass was all about.

Steve, I was lucky. I bought my Single Coin inexpensively from an old-
time operator in working condition. He worked for Bally as a designer
back in the 60's so maybe he knows the answer to your question. He
and his son also can give advise and repair Bingo games out of Johnson
City, TN. I can put you in touch if necessary. Roger sells Bingo
games and parts on eBay as linangel777

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Mar 27, 2011, 2:44:45 PM

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I'm looking for owners with Bally Bingo machines in their collections. I
have some specific questions about converting a bingo machine to a
payout mode using the coin hoppers. I have a 1960 Laguna Beach and
bought a hopper for it. Can this conversion be done? I can't find any
information about the process. I'd also love to see a picture of a bingo
with the full bottom payout box down near your feet. I haven't seen one
since my Dad played them in gambling halls in the 60's. I still can
remember the excitement of hitting a $100 payout on a quarter machine!!!
Lots of quarters flying! Now just for home play and fun.

Mark


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Mar 27, 2011, 3:03:53 PM

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On Mar 27, 5:44 pm, djwhip_Bally_Laguna_Beach <mcw...@verizon.net>
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Mark, heres a site that may help you:
http://bingo.cdyn.com
Everything you need to know about bingo's. Just e-mail Phil and I'm
sure he will help you and /or point you in the right direction.

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Ned Ledod

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Mar 27, 2011, 3:33:43 PM

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What bingo do you own? I would be glad to answer any specific bingo
question you may have. I'm thinking of making a DVD showing how to
play every type of bingo. I have most types in my collection. Would
anyone here like to see something like that? There seems to be a lot
of bingo questions on here lately.

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Carl

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Mar 27, 2011, 3:45:28 PM

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I have a '58 Carnival Queen project that I hope to start on this
year. Been sitting on it, minus a backglass, for nearly 10 years.
After NEVER seeing backglasses for sale, I found an NOS one on Ebay
last year. Aside from whether it does or will work, the cabinet will
definitely need a full repaint and restencil. It has sheet metal
wrapped around the front half of the cabinet, held on with small
nails. I plan on respraying it with the RustOleum oil based
finishes. The cosmetic restoration will be the easy part I think.

Joey

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Mar 27, 2011, 3:57:24 PM

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Hi Ned,

I have a 1960 Bally Laguna Beach bingo with the OK & Magic Screen
features. It is fully operational and has been for the last 11 years in
my billiard room. I used to watch my Dad play them in the 60's when it
was legal to play them for coin payouts. I'm trying to find out any
information in regards to connecting mine to a coin hopper feature that
was on these machines in the 60's. I would love to see a picture of one
with the full front payout box that housed the coin hopper. Can you help
me with any of this?

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Mar 27, 2011, 4:39:20 PM

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Hi Johnny,

Thanks for the link. I did find the following information:
"Summertime Bingo Machine (Cash payout machine)
Ok, so it's just a Beach Club sitting on a one-ball style base that
includes a payout hopper. These monster bases were not made by bally,
but were pretty common in nevada and other places where the cash payout
was allowed (legally or not)". Sorry I couldn't paste the photo. I don't
remember seeing this style of machine but that's what I'm talking about
concerning the coin hopper and box at the bottom of the machine. Has
anyone seen one of these machines? I guess most were destroyed once they
were no longer legal. I'd love to see the schematics or a photo of one.
I still love the game even if it's just for game clicks on the machine.
I hit for 400 last night with 4 in the yellow section and scoring as 5!

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Mar 27, 2011, 5:23:24 PM

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On Mar 27, 7:39 pm, djwhip_Bally_Laguna_Beach <mcw...@verizon.net>
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Mark, glad it helped. Here's a few more:
http://p4.forumforfree.com/ballybingo.html
this is a british bingo forum

http://danny.cdyn.com/Misc%20Bingo.htm
This site has alot of links to other bingo related sites, and alot of
pictures

Th

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Mar 27, 2011, 5:23:45 PM

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On Mar 27, 5:57 pm, djwhip_Bally_Laguna_Beach <mcw...@verizon.net>
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Bally made very few factory payout bingos. I have a Bally postcard
showing a Big Wheel bingo with a hopper. Many other bingos were
converted using Bally slot machine payout hoppers. I have owned a few
of these. As someone else said, the lower cabinet looks like a one-
ball cabinet with the hopper being in the front leg section. There
have been a lot of Bally E.M. slot machines and payout hoppers going
pretty cheap on E-bay for the last year or so. Sorry I cannot be more
help to you.

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Mar 27, 2011, 5:24:34 PM

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I'd love to see that Dennis.

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Mar 27, 2011, 5:26:40 PM

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DVD that is

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Mar 27, 2011, 6:18:41 PM

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I've got four bingos. Two are restored, setup and played regularly
(Broadway, Gayety). A United Showboat works but no room
for it. Bally Beauty rounds out the collection.

I'd be interested in what you end up doing. Hadn't thought about adding
a payout.
Steve

 

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Mar 27, 2011, 6:23:20 PM

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Johnny <jlitch...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:b17a202d-d75f-446d-8bd6-
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theres quite a few bingo games at this auction coming up in NC
http://www.wilsonandterryauction.net/april_2_2011/
even a few pins.

scroll down for the bingo pictures.

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Mar 27, 2011, 6:39:11 PM

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Bally Distributing (then in Las Vegas, Reno and Elko) run by Si Redd
made them in Reno.

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Mar 27, 2011, 10:06:49 PM

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The Big Wheel? Or are you talking about regular conversions.

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Are you going to the Auction?
Here are two pictures of my 1960 laguna Beach. Thanks for all your
help!

Mark - Balt, MD.

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Mar 29, 2011, 5:58:49 AM

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Ahh, the same Mark that inquired about my Mystic Gate in Baltimore.
Sorry someone beat you to it.
This is a shot in the dark, but give Cadallac Amusements a call (410)
355-0573. they are in Brooklyn, MD. I was there some years back and
they had loads of bingo games in thier shop. Worth a shot.
John

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Mar 29, 2011, 12:00:43 PM

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djwhip_Bally_Laguna_Beach <mcw...@verizon.net> wrote in
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no, the auction is too far from me. you might want to make a new post
looking for north carolinians, if you are trying to find someone to pick
a game/parts up?

thanks for the pictures tho. those games were before my time, they look
pretty interesting.

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Mar 29, 2011, 12:09:05 PM

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Somewhat related - there are still bingos on location in the Bay
Area. Three or four places at last count. No idea if they do payouts
or not, but by some of the locations, I suspect they do.

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Johnny

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Mar 29, 2011, 5:22:13 PM

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I would love to find a bar that has a bingo close to me (that pays
out), let alone any pinball. The only place that I know in the Balto.
Area is Crabtown USA, (pins and vids) but no bingo. I tell people who
don't understand bingo's that they are just like the cherry masters in
the bars now. My Granma told me that Granpa used to spend a little
too much time playing these games. LOL

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Jonny O

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Mar 29, 2011, 5:57:01 PM

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Here is a song about Bingos by Lonnie Irving from 1960.

http://pinballbayarea.wordpress.com/2010/11/21/trucking-pinball-machine-lonnie-irving/

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Mar 29, 2011, 6:08:49 PM

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If you ever come thru St. Louis, give me a call. There are still a few
bingos on location here. Still a nickel a game.

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Mar 29, 2011, 9:10:23 PM

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I have 17 bingos of various ages, including the ABC the first ever Bingo
type I find the bingos more fun than most EM pinball games. Once you
learn how to play them it's really a lot of fun.

Kendall


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Mar 31, 2011, 1:51:55 PM

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Hi Kendall,

I would love to see that many Bingos working in one place. I just
realized that there are 5 basic types of Bingo machines that really make
each group different. I've only ever played the "Magic Screen" type
machines. It would be fun to try some of the other types. Where are you
located? Would you list all the machines you have in your collection for
us. Which one is your favorite? I bought the book by Jeffrey Lawton
called "Bally Bingo Pinball Machines by Schiffer Books and it does a
great job of detailing the history of Bingo machines and the changes
over the years. Now I just have to find where I can play and see them in
person. Thanks

Mark
Baltimore, MD
1960 Bally Laguna Beach Bingo Machine


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