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Saturday, June 12, 2010 2:17 PM

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To: "Danny Leach" <bingopinballs>

 

Hi,

 

Yes, he uses a control box, for some bingo's you need it to remove a security code.

You can also use the box to see the counters, test the lamps and switches.

 

Not all the electronic bingo's have this, like TSCC.

You can copy the SRAM of a working bingo.

 

Ivan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://rgparchive.com/rgpforum/showthread.php?t=13968

 

Matty-t

 

INFO: New Orleans Bingo - Sirmo of Belgium 1984


If you or anyone you know has one, I need Eprom 3 dumped and emailed
to me. I would compensate you for your time and efforts. Actually it
might be best to have all three dumped so I can make sure the first two
checksum. Rom 3 is defiantly toast. The revision is labeled as 3.41 if
your revision does not match I will need all three images. I can accept
all the popular formats. They are 2732's so just about any burner out
there would read them.

TIA - Matt

 

 

 

 

 

Vic Camp on his New Continental Golden

 

"I got this game in a 12 game package deal from a vendor in Newark NJ. This 1990's manufacture game from overseas is packed with features never seen on an EM bingo machine. Manufactured by GAA in Belgium. Digital bingos have so many features it allows a player to win or lose a great deal of money in one game. The betting can go up to the hundreds or thousands of dollars in one single game depending on how much the player is willing to invest or gamble. I have the game programmed to allow a player to win over 20,000 replays and the setting can go higher if an operator wants to allow it. Garage gameroom location 2011."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hechurchofthesilverb...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

hi.  just picked up a Sirmo bingo.   The head and body don’t match, i
figured that before I bought it, but the price was good.  does anyone
have a source for technical info on these units?


it is in very nice shape.   It uses the same crappy data sentry
battery as Gottlieb.  :-)


Interesting hardware.


i need to convert it to 110v.  i may just replace the transformer, it
would be simpler.
Mike


What game do you have?  I have a couple of New Orleans games, one that
doesn't power up and one that boots but doesn't seem to play.

I managed to contact someone at Sirmo in Belgium who tried to help me
out.  They didn't have any info on New Orleans, but he scanned the
service manual for Louisiana for me and sent me a pdf.  He said these
used the same board set.

The Louisiana pdf is on my webiste if you want a copy.  It is in
French, but the schematics have mostly english text, though they use
different terms for voltage (pressure) and such.

http://reelpinball.com/games/sirmobingo/LouisianaServiceManual.pdf

I was lucky enough to later find an English manual and schematics for
New Orleans on eBay, along with a full set of boards (all for $12!).
I haven't had a chance to do anything with the games since getting
the paperwork.  My experience was all EM when I got these games and
Clay obviously does not have a Sirmo repair guide so I didn't get too
far.  I was able to get into test mode but had a hard time
interpreting some of what was going on.  I'm hoping to find some time
to look at these again now that I've done a lot of SS work, but
they're not high on my list of priorities.

Steve Yates
Ste...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx://REELpinball.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Internet Note Oct 22nd , 2003: (Unk Origin - Sounds like a note from Aeneas on rec.games.pinball)

 

So if you have a working machine, take care of it and do not disconnect any cables. If you bought a machine which doesn't work, good luck with it, I hope you didn't pay too much for it. It's possible that the machine can be restarted, however this is not guaranteed so it's possible you end up with a non-working machine..

 

I receive quite often emails from people who have bought a non-working bingo (it's in code) and who ask for more information. So here is my default answer:

I only have the manual (no schematics, does explain the security codes) of the Miss Bowling Turbo. For the cost of copying and postage I can send you a photocopy. However - this manual is only for the 'turbo' version, the regular or other versions have different error codes ! However, procedures may be the same and the manual may help you to understand how to operate the machine.

As I said above, I recently got a small box which is used to start bingos, but have not tested it and have no instructions for it. If you live near Antwerp and have a machine which doesn't work, let me know so I can test the box..

There are people who can restart these bingos. I don't know them. I suggest you search in the yellow pages for people who deal in amusement games and ask around.Have you found someone, please let me know, so I can add this information here.

Wimi themselves may help you, although I'm not sure they will. (I've heard from people who were able to get some schematics from them, heard from other people that Wimi didn't want to help them at all..)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nov 17 2003, 5:53 pm     show options

 

Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball

From: "David Deturck" <willy.deturckREM...@pandora.be>

Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:52:50 GMT

Local: Mon,Nov 17 2003 5:52 pm

Subject: Re: Miss Bowling Retro Bingo

Aeneas,

The info on your site is quite correct.  The Electronic key is a chip which only goes on one specific cpu.  So every game has it's own key. Using the box,

you mostly have to reset all addresses to zero and it will work again.

Regards,
David

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Continental Notes:

href="http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball?hl=en">rec.games.pinball

 

Continental Instructions:

 

This machine combines features from two solid state Bingo machines, Bally's Continental (Dec 80), and Sirmo's Star Continental 2000 (Jan 97). Some additional keys are used in this VPinball game as noted. Before beginning play, set the TILT sensitivity; use the Page Up and Page Down keys. 1 is most sensitive, 9 is least sensitive. 0 which comes before one, is no TILT at all. 5 BALLS &1 COIN SCORE VOID IF GAME IS TILTED Object:

 

.   The key pad tester makes te definition of the program of the various

game options possible, as well as the operating parameters and also to realize a number of tests.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jun 11 2004, 5:25 pm     show options

 

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From: Aeneas <ave...@hotmail.com>

Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:25:06 GMT

Local: Fri,Jun 11 2004 5:25 pm

Subject: Re: Help on Sirmo Bingo

 

On 11 Jun 2004 11:31:18 -0700, robertmche...@attbi.com (Robert

 

Well there are a few problems with older Belgian bingos:

- most belgian companies are in the French speaking part of Belgium, so English emails are maybe even ignored

- some of them just had webdesign outsourced and probably never read their email so you have to phone or fax

- no-one is interested in supporting private owners of machines, even here in Belgium, so probably they just don't care about machines abroad

- no-one is interested in the older models

and the major problem is:

- a lot of these companies have been taken over, so the people there now may not know anything about old models as this was from another company..

Aeneas.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aug 27 2002, 3:00 pm     show options

 

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From: leon...@pi.be (LEON)

Date: 27 Aug 2002 12:00:42 -0700

Local: Tues,Aug 27 2002 3:00 pm

Subject: Re: Miss Bowling Bingo game

 

HI!!

BAD news I'm affraid.. These wimi bingos were fabricated here in Belgium and used as a sort of "jackpots" although it was and is still  prohibited some bars and café's did and do "pay-out " the winnings...As sometimes big money was/is  involved there are a lot of safety circuits on these machines.

 

Complicated codes are in a ram, and the "hold" circuit of this safety ram is in series with a lot of security contacts.. When you open the door for example or the backglass the ram is erased...code E602... The only way to get the ram loaded again is a special print with eprom and circuitry to plug in at connector J709 and a certain number of handlings to perform.. The first buyer of such a wimi bingo is mostly an exploiter of several machines in bars and cafés.. so he has "the key" the special print ... every client of Wimi's has his own key, so no exchanges between clients could be made...( smart) As buisenis was going down last years in bingos a lot of these machines came on the market, but the exploiter kept the key for the machines he still had running... And at the first occasion the new owner opend the front door the ram was resetted and the bingo "out of business" E602...The only way to start it up again is to find the owner of the original " key"...Up to now i tried a few "tricks" but without success..stopped my experiments because "to much time "consumed... I general this bingos end up in garages and shacks after the new owner called and asked around for a solution that he did not found...The day i cracked this one perhaps i will not publish it on my website......... ,

 

i will have a lot of clients " waiting"....  sorry  

 

Leon from http://www.flipper-pinball-fan.be/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aug 29 2002, 9:03 am     show options

 

Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball

From: campga...@yahoo.com (Vic Camp)

Date: 29 Aug 2002 06:03:33 -0700

Local: Thurs,Aug 29 2002 9:03 am

Subject: Re: Miss Bowling Bingo game

Guy,
Here is some info on the Miss Bowling I have. My electronic bingo is a Miss Bowling Turbo, it was manufactured by a company in Belguim called G.A.A.(General Automatic Amusement)with Wimi circuit boards in the bingo machine. The EEROR CODE E602 in my manual reads EE06 THE EE06 means:valeur du RPREG ANORMALE forgot what this means in English. Could be replay register or something else. must ask someone who knows French to translate this. Here is the correct website address for Wimi: http://www.wimi.be/contacts.html Here are other manufactures in

Belguim with electronic bingos:
http://www.seeben.com/coney.htm I have a phone number you can call to reach tech's at G.A.A and
possilbly tech's at Wimi. Email me for any questions or help you may need or for phone numbers.
Vic

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jun 20 2004, 4:46 pm     show options

 

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From: Frank Oeffelke <godfather_of_raritaet*NOSP...@web.de­>

Date: 20 Jun 2004 20:46:01 GMT

Local: Sun,Jun 20 2004 4:46 pm

Subject: Re: Help on Sirmo Bingo

 

After receiving the coindoor schematic from John I was able to build a little adapter to start the games! A few days later I get an offer for a coindoor from Aenaes from Belgium. In the meantime I put this coin door into my bingo and it works fine! So my problem is solved with help from the people here in the RGP! Many thanks to all who helped me to restore my Bingo machine! Pictures of the restoration of my Machine are available here:

http://www.pinballz.net/ipb/index.php?showtopic=1179

 

Jun 21 2004, 12:40 am     show options

 

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From: "Fred Kemper" <pbgar...@davlin.net

Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:40:06 -0500

Local: Mon,Jun 21 2004 12:40 am

Subject: Re: Help on Sirmo Bingo

 

Cool looking game!  First old bingo that I've seen that had a MPU in it, too.  I'd suggest changing/removing/relocating that battery that's mounted on it.

Maybe hard to find another board if that one is damaged by
a battery failure.

6 knocker coils?!

Fred
TX

> After receiving the coindoor schematic from John I was able to
> build a little adapter to start the games! A few days later I
> get an offer for a coindoor from Aenaes from Belgium.
> In the meantime I put this coin door into my Bingo and it
> works fine! So my problem is solved with help from the people
> here in the RGP! Many thanks to all who helped me to restore
> my Bingomachine!
> Pictures of the restoration of my Machine are avaiable here:

> http://www.pinballz.net/ipb/index.php?showtopic=1179

> Note the little number at the bottom! There you can go to
> the next site! This is one of the German Pinball Communities.
> You can read as guest but for posting you must register (for free)...
> It`s in german but contains many many pictures...

Jun 21 2004, 2:40 pm     show options

 

Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball

From: Frank Oeffelke <godfather_of_raritaet*NOSP...@web.de­>

Date: 21 Jun 2004 18:40:01 GMT

Local: Mon,Jun 21 2004 2:40 pm

Subject: Re: Help on Sirmo Bingo

@Fred:

Mounted on the board was one 3,6V accu (diagonal)! This accu was only for the two 5101. These where changed with the

ee-prom adapter which need no more battery backup!

 

Not 6 Knocker coils! These are 6 SOUNDCOILS! Notice the little pcb above the coils. This pcb gives the voltage with different frequencies to the sound coils. So the soundcoils buzzes in different frequencies.... (Soundboard for the poor....)

 

Note the little number at the bottom! There you can go to the next site! This is one of the German Pinball Communities. You can read as guest but for posting you must register (for free)... It`s in German but contains many many pictures...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jun 10 2004, 11:01 am     show options

 

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From: campga...@yahoo.com (Vic Camp)

Date: 10 Jun 2004 08:01:48 -0700

Local: Thurs,Jun 10 2004 11:01 am

Subject: Re: Continental, A Solid State Bingo Machine Has Arrived For Visual Pinball!

Thnaks for sharing this great game called Continental... Here is more information on this fantastic 6 card bingo pinball machine.

"New Continental Golden". This six card bingo pinball is someway related to the last Bally six card bingo machine ever produced that was made in 1980 called the "Continental". It was Bally's first and only six card electronic bingo machine. All 1000 Continental were sold and shipped to a company in Belgium where bingo pinball machines are very much alive and popular today. I guess you can say Bally's very last six card bingo produced the "Continental" paved the way for the European market.

 

The key pad tester makes the definition of the program of the various game options possible, as well as the operating parameters and also to realize a number of tests.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Miss Bowling Bingo

Feb 16 2003, 1:11 pm     show options

 

Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball

From: guyvanransbe...@planetinternet.be (Guy)

Date: 16 Feb 2003 10:11:49 -0800

Local: Sun,Feb 16 2003 1:11 pm

Subject: Miss Bowling Bingo

 

Does anyone now how to remove a tilt from a miss Bowling bigno. I have tried everything, power on with door open, reset my elektonic key... nothing works he stays in tilt mode.
Thanks

 

Feb 16 2003, 1:42 pm     show options

 

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From: "David Deturck" <willy.deturckREM...@pandora.be>

Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:41:32 GMT

Local: Sun,Feb 16 2003 1:41 pm

Subject: Re: Miss Bowling Bingo

 

First:
check the tilts; are they constant on? there's one ball roll tilt in the upper part of the backbox, one or two in the cabinet, perhaps one in the door and perhaps one on the underside of the playfield.

 

Those bingos often go in a sort of 'code', you could look at it as a sort of alarm thing.

What probably has to happen now, is to reset the memory addresses of the bingo.  This is done by attaching a little interface to the machine where you can reset the memory.

 

However, very hard to find.  Some operators might still have it, but they are not very willing to help people out with there old bingo problems...

Good luck,
David

 

> Does enyone now how to remove a tilt from a miss Bowling bingo.I have
> tryed everything, power on with door open, reset my elektonic key...
> nothing works he stays in tilt mode.
> Thanks

Feb 17 2003, 2:07 pm     show options

 

Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball

From: guyvanransbe...@planetinternet.be (Guy

Date: 17 Feb 2003 11:07:56 -0800

Local: Mon,Feb 17 2003 2:07 pm

Subject: Re: Miss Bowling Bingo

 

"David Deturck" <willy.deturckREM...@pandora.b­e> wrote in message <http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=wXQ3a.23690$3p.3338082784@hestia.telenet-ops.be>...
> First:
> check the tilts; are they constant on? there's one ball roll tilt in the upper part of the backbox, one or two in the cabinet,
> perhaps one in the door and perhaps one on the underside of the playfield.

> Those bingo's often go in a sort of 'code', you could look at it as a sort of alarm thing.

> What probably has to happen now, is to reset the memory adresses of the bingo.  This is done by attaching a little interface to the
> machine where you can reset the memory.

> However, very hard to find.  Some operators might still have it, but they are not very willing to help people out with there old
> bingo problems...

> Good luck,
> David

> "Guy" <guyvanransbe...@planetinterne­t.be> schreef in bericht http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=35823f76.0302161011.1ee83558@posting.google.com...
> > Does enyone now how to remove a tilt from a miss Bowling bingo.I have
> > tryed everything, power on with door open, reset my elektonic key...
> > nothing works he stays in tilt mode.
> > Thanks

Hey David,

I removed al tilts , the one in the back box and two in the cabinet. The strange thing is i can put still credits on it without a problem. I now its difficult to get something from operators, my bingo was in error code EB02 en it was hard to find a electronic key after a lot of phone calling I find someone that sells me a complete electronic key. Anyway thanks form your help.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message #3 -----

From: Leach, Danny

To: Ronny Janssens

Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 5:32 AM

Subject: RE: Game-Master Enquiry

Thank you Ronny - Nice to hear from you.

1) Is the code available to the public so a person can program a new eprom or IC if needed? most bingo's ,JES


2) Can a person buy new eproms and ICs if needed? most bingo's ,JES


3) Is there more then one code? The code is a numbur to tel you where the problem is in the bingo!!!(you only need a electronic KEY for reset the code after fixing the problem!


4) Do the different Wimi machines use different eproms? YES


5) Do the different Wimi machines use different code? YES


6) Where can I get a copy of the code? You buy a eprom or ic and a electronic key with the same code


7) Where can I get the vendor part number of the eproms and ICs?


8) Where can I buy the eproms and ICs? By the manufacture of the bingo!! Wimi,seeben,sirmo............


y


Best Regards,

Danny

-----Original Message #2-----
From: Ronny Janssens
Sent: Tue 4/19/2005 6:47 AM
To: Leach, Danny
Subject: Re: Game-Master Enquiry

Dan - Code is in a eprom or ic


----- Original Message #1 -----
From: "Danny" <dleach>
To: <info@game-master.be>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:46 AM
Subject: Game-Master Enquiry

Hello Ronny I am updating my bingo webpages and hope you can tell me some information about the codes used in the bingo pinball machines?

I would very much appreciate it. Thank you - Danny

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Larry Lemmerman

Hope that clears this up...

 Larry Lemmerman 7:24pm Jul 9

No....Use the roll-over yellow button which will stop the post routine and put an error of a stuck roll-over..,then use the service box to clear by setting the service box...see,in and out switches..then toggle the service switch..That should disarm the alarm (key)..if the alarm shows on the backglass then toggle it again.(service switch)...

 Danny Leach 11:54am Jul 9

so does this last message override/cancel the "i have a method" method?

 Larry Lemmerman 8:29pm Jul 8

Sorry...to clear the errors see, in and out switches on service box on..Toggle the service switch this will turn the alarm on/off...

 Larry Lemmerman 12:27pm Jul 8

I have a method that stops post with an error, I start the bingo with the roll-over button held down, yellow one works...This will allow you to reset with the service box, both the error for the yellow button and you can turn off the alarm code at this time...To do this hold down both the service and the see switches and toggle the out switch, that will turn on/off the alarm...

 Larry Lemmerman 8:16pm May 4

I do stand corrected, you CAN unlock a WIMI without a Key!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Update: Some technical information about a Miss Bowling De Luxe:
Code EE51 is about the number of balls on the playfield, there need to
be 10 in the collector underneath the playfield. In combination with
error code 21, this means the game thinks there are too many balls in
the game: 10 underneath the playfield and one in hole 21.
So probably this means the switch of hole 21 is broken/stuck closed and
therefor the game does not want to start.

Another update: for the people in Belgium who do have a bingo in code
and need someone to start it: contact Ronny from
http://www.game-master.be/ as he can repair and restart a lot of bingo
machines. Please say that flippers.be sent you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I did get hold of a manual which explains a bit about the security.
However I've never seen exactly how to restart a bingo, so what I write
here is what other people told me, some things may be wrong..

First, I know you need a special small box with which you can disable
the checks so the bingo will start up. And.. yes, the good news is I
recently got hold of such a box ! but I even don't know if this box
will work on every type or only one specific model.. But.. there's a
BUT.. also bad news.. I also heard that these bingos can be protected
using an 'electronic key'.

This actually is a keychain with an eprom on it, holding the 'missing'
settings. This key may even belong to the machine (so you probably
can't use the key of another machine). If the bingo machine has the
electronic security key activated, you need this eprom keychain or you
will never be able to start it ?!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: LEON (leon.b1@pi.be)

 

HI!!

 

BAD news I'm affraid.. These wimi bingo's were fabricated here in

Belgium and used as a sort of "jackpots" although it was and is still

prohibited some bars and café's did and do "pay-out " the

winnings...As sometimes big money was/is  involved there are a lot of

safety circuits on these machines. Complicated codes are in a ram, and

the "hold" circuit of this safety ram is in series with a lot of

security contacts.. When you open the door for example or the

backglass the ram is erased...code E602... The only way to get the ram

loaded again is a special print with eprom and circuitry to plug in

at connector J709 and a certain number of handlings to perform.. The

first buyer of such a wimi bingo is mostly an exploiter of several

machines in bars and cafés.. so he has "the key" the special print ...

every client of Wimi's has his own key, so no exchanges between

clients could be made...( smart) As business was going down last years

in bingo's a lot of these machines came on the market, but the

exploiter kept the key for the machines he still had running... And at

the first occasion the new owner opened the front door the ram was

reset and the bingo "out of business" E602...The only way to

start it up again is to find the owner of the original " key"...Up to

now I tried a few "tricks" but without success..stopped my experiments

because "to much time "consumend... I general this bingo's end up in

garages and shacks after the new owner called and asked around for a

solution that he did not found...The day i cracked this one perhaps I

will not publish it on my website......... , i will have a lot of

clients " waiting"....  sorry  Leon .from

http://www.flipper-pinball-fan.be

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Feb 16 2003, 1:11 pm

Does anyone now how to remove a tilt from a miss Bowling bingo. I have
tried everything, power on with door open, reset my elektonic key...
nothing works he stays in tilt mode.


Thanks Guy

 

Feb 16 2003, 1:42 pm

First:
check the tilts; are they constant on? there's one ball roll tilt in the upper part of the backbox, one or two in the cabinet,
perhaps one in the door and perhaps one on the underside of the playfield.

Those bingo's often go in a sort of 'code', you could look at it as a sort of alarm thing.

What probably has to happen now, is to reset the memory addresses of the bingo.  This is done by attaching a little interface to the machine where you can reset the memory.

However, very hard to find.  Some operators might still have it, but they are not very willing to help people out with there old
bingo problems...

Good luck,
David

       Guy   Feb 17 2003, 2:07 pm

 

Hey david,

I removed al tilts, the one in the back box and two in the cabinet.
The strange thing is i can put still credits on it without a problem.
I now its difficult to get something from operators, my bingo was in
error code EB02 en it was hard to find a electronic key after a lot of
phone calling i find someone that sold me a complete electronic key.

Anyway thanks form your help.

 

Guy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

David Dierickx
Joined: June 28, 2006

Posts: 157
Location: 3272 Messelbroek
 
  Posted: Tue July 10, 2006 6:54 pm Post subject: Euro Continental Star
 
Hello

I have two bingos Euro Continental Star Wimi of both Eb02.
Electronic key missing error.
Does anyone happen to wiring diagrams for a bingo like this.
I have checked on these bingo kablage and find not a mistake but yes that's difficult if you do not know where each wire needs.
Connector's no problem, but at the level of security switch that is something else.
Or somewhere a description of each connector (pinbeschrijving)
On the internet I already found the manual (in French) so that I seek no longer.
I have two keys with EK bjhorende EEPROM to remove this Eb02.

No results so there must be something wrong outside.

mvg

David Dierickx

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Posts: 6 MessagePosté le: Jeu 09 09, 2004 06:06 Posted: Thurs, September 9, 2004 6:06   Sujet du message: Clé electronique BINGO Post subject: Key electronic BINGO


Salut à tous,
Hi all,

Je suis arrivé à un point de non retour avec mon BINGO (WIMI, GMI PRESIDENT), après avoir galéré pour le remettre en route, voici qu'il est planté à environ 15 secondes de la remise sous tension: code Eb02 ou E602.
I've reached a point of no return with my BINGO (Wimi, GMI PRESIDENT), having struggled to restart it, here it is planted

about 15 seconds of powering up: Eb02 code or E602.
Est-ce l'Electronic Key qui est manquante ?
Is the Electronic Key is missing? Ou autre chose ? Or something else?

Vos retours pourront être précieux
Your feedback will be valuable Wink

Merci,
Thank you,

Jamouille64
Jamouille64

 

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Posts: 139     MessagePosté le: Jeu 09 09, 2004 07:53 Posted: Thurs, September 9, 2004 7:53   Sujet du message: Post subject:


Salut,
Hello,
EB02 = Clé éléctronique absenbte..
EB02 = Key Electronics absenbte ..

Tant que on ne trouve pas les schéma's et on n'a pas étudier ces Bingo's de WIMI cela sera impossible de faite quelque chose avec ces engins Leon
While we do not find the schema's and it did not consider these Bingo's of Wimi made it impossible to be something with these machines Leon

 

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Location: BRUSSELS     MessagePosté le: Jeu 09 09, 2004 09:31 Posted: Thurs, September 9, 2004 9:31   Sujet du message: clef electronique Post subject: electronic key

 

salut de bruxelles, hello from brussels,
les clefs change selon l'exploitant il ya une clef standar pour chaque modele de bingo.
keys change according to the operator there is a key standardized model for each bingo.
il ya moyen de suprimer le code porte tu a la boite!!!
there are ways to simply remove the code you have is the box! pour rentré dans les codes returned to the codes
quand aux code!!
when the code! il change selon les modeles it changes according to the models
j'ai preté une documentation a eric loiseau pour un bingo wimi.
I was lent for the documentation for the bird bingo eric Wimi.
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Location: Rue de la Waide, 53 4670 Blégny (Belgium)       MessagePosté le: Jeu 09 09, 2004 12:27 Posted: Thurs, September 9, 2004 24:27   Sujet du message: Post subject:

 

:D Bonjour, je suis sur le point de dépanner ce type de bingo, il utilise un 8085 que je connais. : D Hello, I'm about to troubleshoot this type of bingo, it uses a 8085 that I know. Reste à le duper pour faire sauter la clé... It remains to trick him to skip the key ... Rolling EyesJ'avais déjà réussi ce type de manoeuvre pour copier un banc d'essai industriel à un prix d'origine indescriptible... I already got

this type of maneuver to copy a test bench to industrial original price indescribable ... Si les clés diffèrent à chaque bingo, il suffit de lire le contenu des eprom's et comparer. If the keys differ in each bingo, simply read the contents of EPROM's and compare.

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Jamouille64 Jamouille64

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Posts: 6 MessagePosté le: Jeu 09 09, 2004 21:13 Posted: Thurs, September 9, 2004 9:13 p.m.   Sujet du message: Post subject:


Merci à tous de vos réponses, vous confirmez donc bien que la clé est inévitablement manquante...
Thank you all for your answers, you confirm then that the key is inevitably missing ... J'ai la boîte pour accéder aux parametrages mais je ne pense pas que je puisse faire grand chose: dès le démarrage je ne peux plus prendre la main et passe en EB02 !! I have the box to access the SETTINGS but I do not think I can do anything: from the start I can not take his hand and goes EB02!


Par contre l'idée de dupliquer l'EEPROM semble juste puisqu'il la compare avec une clé de ce type (ou RAM...).
As against the idea of duplicating the EEPROM just seems as compared with a key of this type (or RAM ...). Reste à connaître les connections pour faire marcher tout ça !

It remains to find the connections to run it all!


A nizet pascal : si tu avances bien sur cette duplication, on serait sans doute plusieurs sur le coup, en effet, WIMI vend des bingos mais question support technique, c'est plutôt le grand flou artistique !
A Nizet Easter: If you advance course this duplication, it would probably be more on the coup, in effect, sells bingo Wimi technical support issue but is rather the great fudge!


A School : qui est eric loiseau ?
At School: who is eric the bird? pourquoi ne pas scanner la doc et la rendre accessible à tous... Why not scan the doc and make it accessible to all ... Ce serait super bien !! It would be great!!
A Leon : si tu avais de la doc tres spécifique (schémas éléctroniques), tu penses que tu pourrais faire évoluer cette "purée" de clé éléctronique ?
Leon A: If you had the doc very specific (Electronic schematics), you think you could change this "mash" electronic key?

Merci encore de vos remarques.
Thank you again for your comments.
En espérant qu'à plusieurs têtes, on arrivera à quelque chose !!
Hoping that more heads, we arrive at something!

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Posts: 63       MessagePosté le: Jeu 09 09, 2004 22:46 Posted: Thurs, September 9, 2004 10:46 p.m.   Sujet du message: Post subject:

 


bonsoir a tous,
Hey everybody,
la cle est sauvee sur une ram 5101 sur electronic key module chaque exploitant avais une cle # mais la firme GAA a brx utilisait le meme systeme sur le miss 86 avec une cle qui etait la meme pou tous les exploitants alors peut etre qu il ya moyen de trouve la 2716 + la cle chez GAA je pense une autre possibilite sauver le contenu de la 5101 sur ordinateur et charger le contenus sur une eprom en adaptant l electonique key module mais comment faire?
the key is saved on a ram 5101 electronic key module on each operator had a key, but the firm # BRX GAA has used the same system on the Miss 86 with a key that was the same power, so all operators may be that there is a way of the 2716 + is the key in GAA I think another option to save the contents of the 5101 computer and load the content on a EPROM by adapting Electonics key module but how? sujet tres interressant about very interesting a suivre to follow


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Location: Belgium - Charleroi (Courcelles) MessagePosté le: Jeu 09 09, 2004 23:07 Posted: Thurs, September 9, 2004 11:07 p.m.   Sujet du message: Post subject:

 

Bon.... Well ....

Dans la doc pour l'euro star il est spécifié que si la led Ek est allumée c'est que le système de protection est désactivé. In the doc for the euro star it is specified that if the LED is lit Ek is that the protection system is disabled. Ta led est allumée, ensuite si la led led21 (led orange jaune chez toi, orange rouge chez moi) est allumée, c'est que la clé est programmée dans l'eeprom IC 49 (ref bouquin) Your LED is lit, then if led21 LED (orange LED yellow for you, orange red to me) is on, is that the key is programmed into the EEPROM IC 49 (book ref)
Si je comprends bien la doc : If I understand the doc:

Suivant une certaine procédure, il est possible de programmer le contenu de l'eeprom EK dans le cpu même (de façon non volatile). According to a certain procedure, it is possible to program the content of the eeprom EK in the same cpu (non-volatile). l'eeprom EK peut alors se retirer du cpu. eeprom EK can then remove the cpu. La led orange sur le cpu (LD21) signale si allumée que la clé est programmée dans l'eeprom IC49. The orange led on the cpu (LD21) reported on only if the key is programmed into the eeprom IC49.

Cela veut donc dire que normalement cette clé est dans ton bingo et ne s'est pas barré. This means that normally the key is in your bingo and did not strikeout. malheureusement il n'est pas dit ou du moins je n'ai pas encore vu, comment la récupérer et courcicuiter le beans... unfortunately it is not said or at least I have not seen yet, and how to recover courcicuiter the beans ... Si c'est comme sur mon bingo, ma eeprom ek n'est plus là et les cables Ek qui doivent normalement être branché sont débranchés. If that's on my bingo, ek my eeprom is gone and Ek cables that are normally connected are unplugged. je crois qu'en simulant la porte ouverte avec ta service box que tu as pu mettre le cpu en vrille... I think that simulating the door open with your service box that you could put the CPU into a spin ... Il doit probablement exister un code pour le remettre. There probably exists a code for reuse.
Il faudrait voir avec GAA. Should do with GAA. Ceux-là sont sympa et répondent aux questions... Those are nice and answered questions ...
Une fois ceci fait, on met l'info sur le net comme cela plus de problèmes et en plus on N.... Once done, we put the info on the net as more and more problems we ... N. ces enfo.... these ENFO .... de chez wimi. Wimi home. En général je suis poli mais là je n'ai jamais vu plus mal léché que ces ours là... Usually I am polite but then I've never seen the bears licked badly there ...

De toute façon, il n'y a qu'une explication à tous ces mytstères sur ces GMI et d'autres bingos. Anyway, there's only one explanation for all these mytstères on these GM and other bingo. Ce sont des bingos fraudés et donc il est difficillement acceptable de dire qu'ils ont un jour existé. They are defrauded and bingo so it is difficult thing acceptable to say they have ever existed. ce qui est complètement débile puisque wimi figure partout dans la machine... This is completely stupid because Wimi appears everywhere in the machine ...
Ca me ferait quand même bien rire si cela leur retombait sur la tête... It still makes me laugh if they fell on the head ... (je n'aime pas quand on m'emmerde...) (I hate when bored ...)

---Pascal m'a bien dépanné. --- Pascal serviced me well. Il me reste encore quelques petits trucs à faire pour que le bingo soit ok. I still have some stuff to do for that bingo is ok.
Merci Pascal tu es BALAISE ! Thank you Pascal you are brooms!

Pour Eric loiseau, je suis en contact avec lui, je dois récupérer la doc pour la mettre à disposition sur le net... For Eric the bird, I am in contact with him, I get the doc to make it available on the net ...

nb: Demain j'aurais mon monnayeur et je vais péter la cagnotte :) nb: Tomorrow I would have my coin and I'll blow up the kitty:)
restera à déconnecter le transfo 110/220 et j'aurais déjà une machine plus convenable. will disconnect the transformer to 110/220 and I have a machine more convenient.
Ensuite il faudra comprendre comment le programme fonctionne. Then he will understand how the program works.
Si Pascal arrive à charger ma rom, on étudiera ce programme. If Pascal comes to load my rom will study this program.
Cela me plairait bien de le modifier légèrement pour rendre le bingo plus attrayant (genre un va et vient lumineux comme sur les bingos actuels...) It would please me to modify it slightly to make bingo more attractive (like a light comes and goes like the Bingo today ...)
Et puis on vire une bonne fois pour toute ce test de la clé du programme ainsi que ces multiples tests à l'effraction planqués partout dans le bingo. And then we turn once and for all the key test of the program and that these multiple tests to burglary stashed around the bingo. Plus de test plus d'emmerdes... More testing more bullshit ...
Vous aurez des nouvelles du résultats... You'll hear the results ...
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Vous connaissez Murphy ? You know Murphy? C'est un pote à moi... It's a buddy of mine ...

 

 

 

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Location: Messelbroek   MessagePosté le: Mar 04 07, 2006 13:10 Posted: Tues July 4th 2006 1:10 p.m.   Sujet du message: Bingo Euro Continental Star de Wimi Post subject: Bingo Euro Continental Star Wimi


Bonjour Tout le monde Hello Everyone

Je suis nouveau sur le forum et je suis bien interressé dans tous l'info de bingo. I'm new to the forum and I am very interrested in all the info bingo.
Je suis de belgique donc je vais essayer en francais. I'm from belgium so I'll try in french.
Bien Well
Pour le clé electronique. For the electronic key. J'ai acheté un clé une fois pour mon Bingo. I bought a key once for my bingo.
Je veut dire le petit clé que tu branche au niveau de la porte et qui se branche sur un cable qui va vers le PCB CPU. I mean the little key that you branch at the door and plugs into a cable that goes to the CPU PCB.
Le vendeur etait un exploitant et il travaille chez un installateur des bingos. The seller was a farmer and he worked at a bingo installer.


Il m'a vendu avec EEPROM qui devait correspondre avec le clé. He sold me with EEPROM, which should correspond with the key.
Malheureusement ça fonctionnait pas. Unfortunately it not work.


Est-ce qu'on peut pas lire le contenu de cette clé et copier dans le EEPROM. Is this you cannot read the contents of this key and copy it into the EEPROM.
Ou si on veut c'est materiel pour etudié. Or if someone wants it for study material.


J'avais lu quelque part qu'on peut lire le contenu déjà du EEPROM. I read somewhere that one can already read the content of EEPROM.
Question avec quelle logiciel et hardware on a fait?? Question how software and hardware was done??
J'ai deux bingo en code Eb02. I have two bingo code Eb02.


Donc je suis bien interesser pour les dépanner. So I am very interested to help them out.

merci d'avance thank you in advance
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Il existe 2 versions du module memoire du président. There are two versions of the memory module of the President.

PZK (Président Zonder Key) Zonder = sans PZK (President Zonder Key) Zonder = without
PMK (Président Met Key) Met = avec KMP (President Puts Key) with Met =

Le modèle PMK de base fonctionne avec une clé 'standard' The basic model KMP works with a key 'standard'
Les modules PMK peuvent cependant être personnalisés et correspondent alors chacun à une clé différente. The modules can however be customized KMP and then correspond each to a different key.

A ce que j'en sais, le cpu envoie un code dans une ram qui se trouve sur une carte supplémentaire dans le corps. As far as I know, the CPU sends a code in a ram that is on an additional card in the body.

Lorsque l'on ouvre une porte, on coupe l'alim de cette ram (batterie) ce qui la remet à zéro (ou dans un état aléatoire) donc sécurité qui fonctionne aussi jeu coupé. When you open a door, cut the power supply of this RAM (battery) which delivers it to zero (or in a random state) so functioning security also game off.

Le jeu ne sortira du code que si on connecte la clé électronique qui correspond au programme personnalisé. The game does come out of the code if it connects the electronic key that corresponds to the custom program.

Ce système était (à l'époque) très difficile à contrer. This system was (then) very difficult to counter. Le mieux serait de pouvoir obtenir des mémoires PZK (chez Wimi peut être). The best would be to obtain PZK memories (in Wimi may be).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Bingo problemess Splin

Messageby cede Thurs, May 10th, 2007 9:16 p.m.

hello,

here I possesses two bingo brand Splin - 1 Michigan and a luckyball - I possess the card code or "telephone" is one-Sirmo Sorex

my question is:
where can I find the codes has introduced and the meaning of codes that mark in the site credit?

Messageby cede Thurs, May 10th, 2007 9:59 p.m.

yes I already tried. thank you

Do you know a specialized forum on bingo?

thank you a thousand times

cede

Messageby buga21 Fri May 11th 2007 7:28 p.m.

Here you will find a site or a lot of things, you know can be ...

and also you can contact "school" on this site is his job and he is to anderlecht ... very nice ...

http://jeux-automatiques.skynetblogs.be/

 

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Messageby C is good co Sun, May 13, 2007 0:08

Good evening,

The entry code for the Michigan CL, 1.2, XY. Do not forget to put the plug on the side Sorex on the keyboard, the other I do not know

bingo home SPLINE but may be another brand.
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Failure is well explained failure in half solved.



luckyball is the spline (it is a pure one ball)

I will try your codes

So on the keyboard you have 2 output (left-right) and would be for either Sorex Sirmo! Good to know! :x26:

if you had the time doc or any other codes I thank you in advance

cede

 

Messageby cede Sun May 13, 2007 4:37 p.m.

forgive my ignorance

I saw on another post that there were some of the doc on bingo in the "upload the forum"

how can I recover this doc??

thank you a thousand times

cede

 

Messageby cede Sun May 13, 2007 5:10 p.m.

ok, I put bcp question lol

there is a com port in the bingo?
What is it and can you connect it? or is it just for the flacher rom?

cede

 

Messageby C is good co Tues, May 15th, 2007 10:32 p.m.

Good evening,

Com port. used to connect a portable with the right software can view a large amount of data eg the NBRS of times the ball was in the hole 1

 to 25, the nbr of tilts, the different gains of viewed a number of games past and also to change some settings eg advertising displays etc ...

To meet code door I enclose a copy.

 

Messageby C is good co Wed, May 16th, 2007 10:40 p.m.

Good evening,

It seems to me easier than you describe the symptoms of your problem bingo, seen that there is a large amount of different Michigan. At the start

and the display shows 51 increments up to 56, which is encouraging and indicates a 4 digit code must be introduced is an xy cl. A +

Messageby cede Thurs, May 17, 2007 2:03 p.m.

it is clear that at startup it displays 51 and 56 and - 4 -

but I will first try everything that I say, I will keep you juice

because my parents are bingos

thank you again to a super convivial forum

cede

Messageby cede Thurs, May 17, 2007 4:36 p.m.

Here thanks to info from "C is co good" and marc I repair the luckyball

michigan but he insists on two code - 10 - and - 16 -

qq'un knows if that will mean the codes

(It can be a link with the number of the bingo ball)

(When I would repair all the 2, I edit a file to help my neighbor)

thank you again to all

cede

 

Messageby cede Fri May 18th, 2007 2:32 p.m.

code - 10 - should say that I have reintroduced the date??

but the code - 16 - ????? good question??

cede

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aeneas on further coding and cheat proffing

 

Not really too hard.. I believe this is also done in recent bingo
machines.. at least the one I have didn't do a thing when the
playfield and lockdown bar were not on it..  but a bingo has buttons
in the lockdown bar so you can check their presence..
but I believe somewhere in the side rails there's also a switch which
checks if the pf glass is on. That's all you need anyway.
Not 100% tamper proof but a little bit more then you have now.
But as bingo machines pay out they need extra safety to be sure no-one
is cheating with them.. not really a thing you need on a pinball
machine, so I don't see Stern implementing this, as they're additional
costs..

 

Another solution would also be a check in the software how certain
things are triggered, i.e. are switches triggers as during normal game
flow, or i.e. does one hit all targets in the back while the flippers
are not being used ?


But unfortunately this kind of checks is additional programming, which
is time which would better be spend on deeper rulesets..

 

Only exception is of course if online pinball tournaments would become
a big hit.. then they probably would have the possibility to implement
this..

 

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