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Re: Bingo Pinballs:
Saturday, June 12, 2010 2:17 PM
From: "(¯`
www.gokspelen.net ´¯)" <gokspelen>
Add sender to Contacts
To: "Danny Leach"
<bingopinballs>
Hi,
Yes, he uses a control box, for some bingo's you
need it to remove a security code.
You can also use the box to see the counters,
test the lamps and switches.
Not all the electronic bingo's have
this, like TSCC. You can copy the SRAM of a working bingo.
Ivan
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http://rgparchive.com/rgpforum/showthread.php?t=13968
Matty-t
INFO: New Orleans Bingo - Sirmo of Belgium 1984
If you or anyone you know has one, I need Eprom 3
dumped and emailed to me. I would compensate you for your time and efforts.
Actually it
might be best to have all three dumped so I can make sure the first two checksum.
Rom 3 is defiantly toast. The revision is labeled as 3.41 if
your revision does not match I will need all three images. I can accept all
the popular formats. They are 2732's so just about any burner out
there would read them.
TIA - Matt
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Vic Camp on his New Continental Golden
"I got this game in a 12 game
package deal from a vendor in Newark NJ. This 1990's manufacture game from
overseas is packed with features never seen on an EM bingo machine.
Manufactured by GAA in Belgium. Digital bingos have so many features it
allows a player to win or lose a great deal of money in one game. The
betting can go up to the hundreds or thousands of dollars in one single
game depending on how much the player is willing to invest or gamble. I
have the game programmed to allow a player to win over 20,000 replays and
the setting can go higher if an operator wants to allow it. Garage gameroom location 2011."
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hechurchofthesilverb...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
hi. just picked up a Sirmo bingo. The head and
body don’t match, I figured that before I bought it, but the price
was good. does anyone
have a source for technical info on these units? it is in very nice shape.
It uses the same crappy data sentry battery as Gottlieb.
:-)
Interesting hardware.
i need to convert it to 110v. i may just replace the transformer, it would be
simpler.
Mike
What game do you have? I have a couple of New Orleans games, one that doesn't
power up and one that boots but doesn't seem to play. I managed to contact
someone at Sirmo in Belgium who tried to help me out. They didn't have any
info on New Orleans, but he scanned the service manual for Louisiana for me
and sent me a pdf. He said these used the same board set.
The Louisiana pdf is on my webiste if you want a
copy. It is in French, but the schematics have mostly english text, though they use
different terms for voltage (pressure) and such.
http://reelpinball.com/games/sirmobingo/LouisianaServiceManual.pdf
I was lucky enough to later find an English manual and schematics for New
Orleans on eBay, along with a full set of boards (all for $12!).
I haven't had a chance to do anything with the games since getting the
paperwork. My experience was all EM when I got these games and
Clay obviously does not have a Sirmo repair guide
so I didn't get too far. I was able to get into test mode but had a hard
time
interpreting some of what was going on. I'm hoping to find some time to
look at these again now that I've done a lot of SS work, but
they're not high on my list of priorities.
Steve Yates
Ste...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx://REELpinball.com
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Internet Note Oct 22nd , 2003: (Unk Origin
- Sounds like a note from Aeneas on rec.games.pinball)
So if you have a working machine, take care of it and do not
disconnect any cables. If you bought a machine which doesn't work, good
luck with it, I hope you didn't pay too much for it. It's possible that the
machine can be restarted, however this is not guaranteed so it's possible
you end up with a non-working machine..
I receive quite often emails from people who have bought a non-working
bingo (it's in code) and who ask for more information. So here is my
default answer:
I only have the manual (no schematics, does explain the security codes) of
the Miss Bowling Turbo. For the cost of copying and postage I can
send you a photocopy. However - this manual is only for the 'turbo'
version, the regular or other versions have different error codes ! However, procedures may be the same and the
manual may help you to understand how to operate the machine.
As I said above, I recently got a small box which is used to start bingos, but have not tested it and have no instructions
for it. If you live near Antwerp and have a machine which doesn't work, let
me know so I can test the box..
There are people who can restart these bingos. I don't know them. I suggest
you search in the yellow pages for people who deal in
amusement games and ask around.Have
you found someone, please let me know, so I can add this information here.
Wimi themselves may help you, although I'm not
sure they will. (I've heard from people who were able to get some
schematics from them, heard from other people that Wimi
didn't want to help them at all..)
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Nov 17 2003, 5:53 pm
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Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: "David Deturck" <willy.deturckREM...@pandora.be>
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:52:50 GMT
Local: Mon,Nov 17 2003 5:52 pm
Subject: Re: Miss Bowling Retro
Bingo
Aeneas,
The info on your site is quite correct.
The Electronic key is a chip which only goes on one specific cpu. So every game has it's own key. Using the box,
you mostly have to
reset all addresses to zero and it will work again.
Regards,
David
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Continental
Notes:
href="http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball?hl=en">rec.games.pinball
Continental Instructions:
This machine combines
features from two solid state Bingo machines, Bally's Continental (Dec 80),
and Sirmo's Star Continental 2000 (Jan 97). Some
additional keys are used in this VPinball game as
noted. Before beginning play, set the TILT sensitivity; use the Page Up and
Page Down keys. 1 is most sensitive, 9 is least sensitive. 0 which comes
before one, is no TILT at all. 5 BALLS &1 COIN SCORE VOID IF GAME IS
TILTED Object:
. The key pad
tester makes t瀁e definition of the program of the various
game options possible, as
well as the operating parameters and also to
realize a number of tests.
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Jun 11 2004, 5:25 pm show options
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: Aeneas <ave...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:25:06 GMT
Local: Fri,Jun
11 2004 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: Help on Sirmo Bingo
On 11 Jun 2004 11:31:18 -0700,
robertmche...@attbi.com (Robert
Well there are a few problems with older Belgian
bingos:
- most belgian companies
are in the French speaking part of Belgium, so English emails are maybe
even ignored
- some of them just had webdesign
outsourced and probably never read their email so you have
to phone or fax
- no-one is interested in supporting private
owners of machines, even here in Belgium, so probably they just don't care
about machines abroad
- no-one is interested in the older models and the
major problem is:- a lot of these companies have
been taken over, so the people there now may not know anything about old
models as this was from another company..
Aeneas.
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Aug 27 2002, 3:00 pm show options
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: leon...@pi.be (LEON)
Date: 27 Aug 2002 12:00:42 -0700
Local: Tues,Aug
27 2002 3:00 pm
Subject: Re: Miss Bowling Bingo game
HI!!
BAD news I'm affraid.. These wimi bingos were
fabricated here in Belgium and used as a sort of "jackpots"
although it was and is still prohibited some
bars and café's did and do "pay-out " the winnings...As
sometimes big money was/is involved there are a lot of safety
circuits on these machines.
Complicated codes are in a ram, and the
"hold" circuit of this safety ram is in series with a lot of
security contacts.. When you open the door for
example or the backglass the ram is erased...code E602... The only way to
get the ram loaded again is a special print with eprom
and circuitry to plug in at connector J709 and a certain number of
handlings to perform.. The first buyer of such a wimi bingo is mostly an exploiter of several machines
in bars and cafés.. so he has "the
key" the special print ... every client of Wimi's
has his own key, so no exchanges between clients could be made...( smart) As buisenis was
going down last years in bingos a lot of these machines came on the market,
but the exploiter kept the key for the machines he still had running... And
at the first occasion the new owner opend the
front door the ram was resetted and the bingo
"out of business" E602...The only way to start it up again is to
find the owner of the original " key"...Up to now i tried a few "tricks" but without success..stopped my
experiments because "to much time "consumed... I general this
bingos end up in garages and shacks after the new owner called and asked
around for a solution that he did not found...The day i
cracked this one perhaps i will not publish it on
my website......... ,
i will have a lot of clients " waiting"....
sorry
Leon from http://www.flipper-pinball-fan.be/
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Aug 29 2002, 9:03 am show options
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: campga...@yahoo.com (Vic Camp)
Date: 29 Aug 2002 06:03:33 -0700
Local: Thurs,Aug
29 2002 9:03 am
Subject: Re: Miss Bowling Bingo game
Guy,
Here is some info on the Miss Bowling I
have. My electronic bingo is a Miss Bowling Turbo, it was manufactured by a
company in Belguim called G.A.A.(General
Automatic Amusement)with Wimi circuit boards in
the bingo machine. The EEROR CODE E602 in my manual reads EE06 THE EE06 means:valeur du RPREG ANORMALE
forgot what this means in English. Could be replay register or something
else. must ask someone who knows French to translate this. Here is the
correct website address for Wimi: http://www.wimi.be/contacts.html Here are
other manufactures in
Belguim with electronic bingos:
http://www.seeben.com/coney.htm I have a
phone number you can call to reach tech's at G.A.A
and
possilbly tech's at Wimi.
Email me for any questions or help you may need or for phone numbers.
Vic
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Jun 20 2004, 4:46 pm show options
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: Frank Oeffelke
<godfather_of_raritaet*NOSP...@web.de>
Date: 20 Jun 2004 20:46:01 GMT
Local: Sun,Jun
20 2004 4:46 pm
Subject: Re: Help on Sirmo Bingo
After receiving the coindoor
schematic from John I was able to build a little adapter to start the
games! A few days later I get an offer for a coindoor from Aenaes
from Belgium. In the meantime I put this coin door
into my bingo and it works fine! So my problem is
solved with help from the people here in the RGP! Many thanks to all who
helped me to restore my Bingo machine! Pictures of the restoration of my
Machine are available here:
http://www.pinballz.net/ipb/index.php?showtopic=1179
Jun 21 2004, 12:40 am show options
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: "Fred Kemper"
<pbgar...@davlin.net
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:40:06 -0500
Local: Mon,Jun
21 2004 12:40 am
Subject: Re: Help on Sirmo Bingo
Cool looking game! First old bingo that I've seen that had a MPU in
it, too. I'd suggest changing/removing/relocating that battery that's
mounted on it.
Maybe hard to find another board if that one is
damaged by
a battery failure.
6 knocker coils?!
Fred
TX
> After receiving the
coindoor schematic from John I was able to
> build a little adapter to start the games! A few days later I
> get an offer for a coindoor from Aenaes from Belgium.
> In the meantime I put this coin door into my Bingo and it
> works fine! So my problem is solved with help from the people
> here in the RGP! Many thanks to all who helped me to restore
> my Bingomachine!
> Pictures of the restoration of my Machine are avaiable here:
> http://www.pinballz.net/ipb/index.php?showtopic=1179
> Note the little number
at the bottom! There you can go to
> the next site! This is one of the German Pinball Communities.
> You can read as guest but for posting you must register (for free)...
> It`s in german but contains many many pictures...
Jun 21 2004, 2:40 pm show options
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: Frank Oeffelke
<godfather_of_raritaet*NOSP...@web.de>
Date: 21 Jun 2004 18:40:01 GMT
Local: Mon,Jun
21 2004 2:40 pm
Subject: Re: Help on Sirmo Bingo
@Fred:
Mounted on the board was one 3,6V accu
(diagonal)! This accu was only for the two 5101.
These where changed with the
ee-prom adapter which need no more battery backup!
Not 6 Knocker coils! These are 6 SOUNDCOILS! Notice
the little pcb above the coils. This pcb gives the voltage with different frequencies to the
sound coils. So the soundcoils
buzzes in different frequencies.... (Soundboard for the poor....)
Note the little number at the bottom! There you can
go to the next site! This is one of the German Pinball Communities. You can
read as guest but for posting you must register (for free)...
It`s in German but contains many many pictures...
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Jun 10 2004, 11:01 am show options
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: campga...@yahoo.com (Vic Camp)
Date: 10 Jun 2004 08:01:48 -0700
Local: Thurs,Jun
10 2004 11:01 am
Subject: Re: Continental, A Solid
State Bingo Machine Has Arrived For Visual Pinball!
Thnaks for sharing this great game called Continental...
Here is more information on this
fantastic 6 card bingo pinball machine.
"New Continental Golden". This six card bingo pinball is someway related to the last
Bally six card bingo machine ever produced that was made in 1980 called the
"Continental". It was Bally's first and only six card electronic
bingo machine. All 1000 Continental were sold and shipped to a company in
Belgium where bingo pinball machines are very much alive and popular today.
I guess you can say Bally's very last six card bingo produced the
"Continental" paved the way for the European market.
The key pad tester makes
the definition of the program of the various game options possible, as well
as the operating parameters and also to realize a number of tests.
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Miss Bowling Bingo
Feb 16 2003, 1:11 pm show options
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: guyvanransbe...@planetinternet.be (Guy)
Date: 16 Feb 2003 10:11:49 -0800
Local: Sun,Feb
16 2003 1:11 pm
Subject: Miss Bowling Bingo
Does anyone now how to
remove a tilt from a miss Bowling bigno. I have tried everything, power on with door
open, reset my elektonic key... nothing works he
stays in tilt mode.
Thanks
Feb 16 2003, 1:42 pm show options
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: "David Deturck"
<willy.deturckREM...@pandora.be>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:41:32 GMT
Local: Sun,Feb
16 2003 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: Miss Bowling Bingo
First:
check the tilts; are they constant on?
there's one ball roll tilt in the upper part of the backbox, one or two in
the cabinet, perhaps one in the door and perhaps one on the underside of
the playfield.
Those bingos often go in a sort of 'code', you could
look at it as a sort of alarm thing.
What probably has to happen
now, is to reset the memory addresses of the bingo. This is done by
attaching a little interface to the machine where you can reset the memory.
However, very hard to find. Some operators
might still have it, but they are not very willing to help people out with there old bingo problems...
Good luck,
David
> Does enyone now how to
remove a tilt from a miss Bowling bingo.I
have
> tryed everything, power on with door open, reset my elektonic key...
> nothing works he stays in tilt mode.
> Thanks
Feb 17 2003, 2:07 pm
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Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: guyvanransbe...@planetinternet.be (Guy
Date: 17 Feb 2003 11:07:56 -0800
Local: Mon,Feb
17 2003 2:07 pm
Subject: Re: Miss Bowling Bingo
"David Deturck"
<willy.deturckREM...@pandora.be>
wrote in message <http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=wXQ3a.23690$3p.3338082784@hestia.telenet-ops.be>...
> First:
> check the tilts; are they constant on? there's one ball roll tilt in
the upper part of the backbox, one or two in the cabinet,
> perhaps one in the door and perhaps one on the underside of the
playfield.
> Those bingo's often go in a sort of 'code',
you could look at it as a sort of alarm thing.
> What probably has to
happen now, is to reset the memory adresses of the bingo. This is done by
attaching a little interface to the
> machine where you can reset the memory.
> However, very hard to
find. Some operators might still have it, but they are not very
willing to help people out with there old
> bingo problems...
> Good luck,
> David
> "Guy"
<guyvanransbe...@planetinternet.be> schreef in bericht http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=35823f76.0302161011.1ee83558@posting.google.com...
> > Does enyone now how to remove a tilt from a miss Bowling bingo.I have
> > tryed everything, power on with door open, reset my elektonic
key...
> > nothing works he stays in tilt mode.
> > Thanks
Hey David,
I removed al tilts , the one
in the back box and two in the cabinet. The strange thing is i can put still credits on it without a problem. I now its difficult to get something from operators, my bingo
was in error code EB02 en it was hard to find a electronic key after a lot
of phone calling I find someone that sells me a complete electronic key. Anyway thanks form your help.
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----- Original Message #3 -----
From:
Leach, Danny
To:
Ronny Janssens
Sent:
Wednesday, April 20, 2005 5:32 AM
Subject:
RE: Game-Master Enquiry
Thank you Ronny - Nice to hear from you.
1) Is the code available to the public so a person can program a new eprom or IC if needed? most bingo's
,JES
2) Can a person buy new eproms and ICs if needed?
most bingo's ,JES
3) Is there more then one code? The code is a numbur to tel you where the
problem is in the bingo!!!(you only need a electronic KEY for reset the code after fixing
the problem!
4) Do the different Wimi machines use different eproms? YES
5) Do the different Wimi machines use different
code? YES
6) Where can I get a copy of the code? You buy a eprom or ic and a electronic key with the same code
7) Where can I get the vendor part number of the eproms
and ICs?
8) Where can I buy the eproms and ICs? By the
manufacture of the bingo!! Wimi,seeben,sirmo............
y
Best Regards,
Danny
-----Original Message #2-----
From: Ronny Janssens
Sent: Tue 4/19/2005 6:47 AM
To: Leach, Danny
Subject: Re: Game-Master Enquiry
Dan - Code is in a eprom or ic
----- Original Message #1 -----
From: "Danny" <dleach>
To: <info@game-master.be>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:46 AM
Subject: Game-Master Enquiry
Hello Ronny I am updating my bingo webpages and hope you can tell me some
information about the codes used in the bingo pinball machines?
I would very much appreciate it. Thank you - Danny
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Larry Lemmerman
Hope that clears this up...
Larry Lemmerman 7:24pm Jul 9
No....Use the roll-over yellow button which will stop the post
routine and put an error of a stuck roll-over..,then use the service box to clear by
setting the service box...see,in and out switches..then toggle the service switch..That
should disarm the alarm (key)..if the alarm shows on the backglass then
toggle it again.(service switch)...
Danny Leach
11:54am Jul 9
so does this last message override/cancel the "i have a method" method?
Larry Lemmerman 8:29pm Jul 8
Sorry...to clear the errors see, in and out switches on service
box on..Toggle the
service switch this will turn the alarm on/off...
Larry Lemmerman 12:27pm Jul 8
I have a method that stops post with an error, I start the
bingo with the roll-over button held down, yellow one works...This will
allow you to reset with the service box, both the error for the yellow
button and you can turn off the alarm code at this time...To do this hold
down both the service and the see switches and toggle the out switch, that
will turn on/off the alarm...
Larry Lemmerman 8:16pm May 4
I do stand corrected, you CAN unlock a WIMI without a Key!!!!
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Update: Some technical information about a Miss Bowling De
Luxe: Code EE51 is about the number of balls on the playfield, there need
to be 10 in the collector underneath the playfield. In combination with error
code 21, this means the game thinks there are too many balls in the game:
10 underneath the playfield and one in hole 21. So probably this means the
switch of hole 21 is broken/stuck closed and therefor the game does not
want to start.
Another update: for the people in Belgium who do have a bingo in code and
need someone to start it: contact Ronny from
http://www.game-master.be/ as he can
repair and restart a lot of bingo machines. Please say that flippers.be
sent you.
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I did get hold of a manual which explains a bit about the
security. However I've never seen exactly how to restart a bingo, so what I
write here is what other people told me, some things may be wrong.. First, I know you need a special small box with
which you can disable the checks so the bingo will start up. And.. yes, the good news is I recently got hold of such
a box ! but I even don't know if this box will
work on every type or only one specific model.. But..
there's a BUT.. also bad news..
I also heard that these bingos can be protected using an 'electronic key'.
This actually is a keychain with an eprom on it, holding the 'missing' settings. This key
may even belong to the machine (so you probably can't use the key of another machine). If the bingo machine has the electronic
security key activated, you need this eprom
keychain or you will never be able to start it ?!
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From: LEON
(leon.b1@pi.be)
HI!!
BAD news I'm affraid.. These wimi bingo's were
fabricated here in Belgium and used as a sort of "jackpots"
although it was and is still prohibited some bars and café's did and
do "pay-out " the winnings...As sometimes big money was/is involved
there are a lot of safety circuits on these machines. Complicated codes are
in a ram, and the "hold" circuit of this safety ram is in series
with a lot of security contacts.. When you open
the door for example or the backglass the ram is erased...code E602... The
only way to get the ram loaded again is a special print with eprom and circuitry to plug in at connector J709 and a
certain number of handlings to perform.. The first
buyer of such a wimi bingo is mostly an exploiter
of several machines in bars and cafés.. so
he has "the key" the special print ... every client of Wimi's has his own key, so no exchanges between clients
could be made...( smart) As business was going
down last years in bingo's a lot of these machines came on the market, but
the exploiter kept the key for the machines he still had running... And at the
first occasion the new owner opened the front door the ram was reset and
the bingo "out of business" E602...The only way to
start it up again is to find the owner of the original
" key"...Up to now I tried a few "tricks" but without success..stopped my
experiments
because "to much time "consumend...
I general this bingo's end up in garages and shacks after the new owner
called and asked around for a
solution that he did not found...The day i
cracked this one perhaps I will not publish it on my website......... ,
I will have a lot of clients " waiting".... sorry Leon .from
http://www.flipper-pinball-fan.be
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Feb 16 2003, 1:11 pm
Does anyone now how to remove a tilt
from a miss Bowling bingo. I
have
tried everything, power on with door open, reset my elektonic
key...
nothing works he stays in tilt mode.
Thanks Guy
Feb 16 2003, 1:42 pm
First:
check the tilts; are they constant on? there's one ball roll tilt in the
upper part of the backbox, one or two in the cabinet,
perhaps one in the door and perhaps one on the underside of the playfield.
Those bingo's
often go in a sort of 'code', you could look at it as a sort of alarm thing.
What probably has to happen now, is
to reset the memory addresses of the bingo.
This is done by attaching a little interface to the machine where you
can reset the memory.
However, very hard to find. Some operators might still
have it, but they are not very willing to help people out with there old
bingo problems...
Good luck,
David
Guy
Feb 17 2003, 2:07 pm
Hey david,
I removed al tilts, the one in the back box and two in the
cabinet.
The strange thing is i can put still credits on
it without a problem.
I now its difficult to get something from
operators, my bingo was in
error code EB02 en it was hard to find a electronic key after a lot
of
phone calling i find someone that sold me a
complete electronic key.
Anyway thanks form your help.
Guy
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David Dierickx
Joined: June 28, 2006
Posts:
157
Location: 3272 Messelbroek
Posted: Tue July 10, 2006
6:54 pm Post subject: Euro Continental Star
Hello
I have two bingos Euro
Continental Star Wimi of both Eb02. Electronic
key missing error. Does anyone happen to wiring
diagrams for a bingo like this.
I have checked on these
bingo kablage and find not a mistake but yes
that's difficult if you do not know where each wire needs.
Connector's no problem, but
at the level of security switch that is something else. Or somewhere
a description of each connector (pinbeschrijving)
On the internet I already
found the manual (in French) so that I seek no longer. I have two
keys with EK bjhorende EEPROM to remove this
Eb02.
No results so there
must be something wrong outside.
mvg
David
Dierickx
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Inscrit le: 17 Août 2004 Joined:
August 17, 2004
Messages: 6 Posts:
6 Posté
le: Jeu 09 09, 2004 06:06 Posted: Thurs, September 9,
2004 6:06 Sujet du message: Clé electronique BINGO Post
subject: Key electronic BINGO
Salut à tous, Hi
all,
Je suis arrivé à un point de non retour avec
mon BINGO (WIMI, GMI PRESIDENT), après avoir galéré
pour le remettre en route, voici qu'il est planté à environ
15 secondes de la remise sous tension: code Eb02 ou E602. I've
reached a point of no return with my BINGO (Wimi,
GMI PRESIDENT), having struggled to restart it, here it is planted
about 15 seconds of powering
up: Eb02 code or E602.
Est-ce l'Electronic Key qui est manquante ? Is
the Electronic Key is missing? Ou
autre chose ? Or something else?
Vos retours pourront être précieux Your
feedback will be valuable 
Merci, Thank you,
Jamouille64 Jamouille64
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leon leon
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le: Jeu 09 09, 2004 07:53 Posted: Thurs, September 9,
2004 7:53 Sujet du message: Post
subject:
Salut, Hello,
EB02 = Clé éléctronique absenbte.. EB02
= Key Electronics absenbte ..
Tant que on ne trouve pas les schéma's et on n'a pas
étudier ces Bingo's de WIMI cela sera impossible de faite quelque
chose avec ces engins Leon While we do not find the
schema's and it did not consider these Bingo's of Wimi
made it impossible to be something with these machines Leon
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school School
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le: Jeu 09 09, 2004 09:31 Posted: Thurs, September 9,
2004 9:31 Sujet du message: clef electronique Post
subject: electronic key
salut
de bruxelles, hello from brussels,
les clefs change selon l'exploitant il ya une clef standar
pour chaque modele de bingo. keys
change according to the operator there is a key standardized model for each
bingo. il ya moyen de suprimer le code porte
tu a la boite!!! there are ways to simply
remove the code you have is the box! pour rentré dans les codes returned
to the codes quand
aux code!! when the code! il change selon les modeles it
changes according to the models j'ai
preté une documentation a eric loiseau pour un bingo wimi. I was
lent for the documentation for the bird bingo eric Wimi.
voila A+ voila A +
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nizet pascal Nizet Paschal
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collec perso Personal collection
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(Belgium) Posté
le: Jeu 09 09, 2004 12:27 Posted: Thurs, September 9,
2004 24:27 Sujet du message: Post
subject:
:D
Bonjour, je suis sur le point de dépanner ce type de bingo, il
utilise un 8085 que je connais. : D Hello, I'm about to
troubleshoot this type of bingo, it uses a 8085
that I know. Reste
à le duper pour faire sauter la clé... It
remains to trick him to skip the key ... J'avais
déjà réussi ce type de manoeuvre pour copier un banc
d'essai industriel à un prix d'origine indescriptible... I
already got
this type of maneuver to copy
a test bench to industrial original price indescribable ... Si
les clés diffèrent à chaque bingo, il suffit de lire
le contenu des eprom's et comparer. If
the keys differ in each bingo, simply read the contents of EPROM's and
compare.
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Jamouille64 Jamouille64
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le: Jeu 09 09, 2004 21:13 Posted: Thurs, September 9,
2004 9:13 p.m. Sujet du message: Post
subject:
Merci à tous de vos réponses, vous confirmez
donc bien que la clé est inévitablement manquante... Thank
you all for your answers, you confirm then that the key is inevitably
missing ... J'ai
la boîte pour accéder aux parametrages mais je ne pense pas
que je puisse faire grand chose: dès le démarrage je ne peux
plus prendre la main et passe en EB02 !! I
have the box to access the SETTINGS but I do not think I can do anything:
from the start I can not take his hand and goes
EB02!
Par contre l'idée de dupliquer l'EEPROM semble juste
puisqu'il la compare avec une clé de ce type (ou RAM...). As
against the idea of duplicating the EEPROM just seems as compared with a
key of this type (or RAM ...). Reste
à connaître les connections pour faire marcher tout ça
!
It remains to find the
connections to run it all!
A nizet pascal : si tu
avances bien sur cette duplication, on serait sans doute plusieurs sur le
coup, en effet, WIMI vend des bingos mais question support technique, c'est
plutôt le grand flou artistique ! A Nizet Easter: If you advance course this duplication, it would probably be
more on the coup, in effect, sells bingo Wimi
technical support issue but is rather the great fudge!
A School : qui est eric
loiseau ? At School: who is eric the bird? pourquoi ne pas scanner la doc et la rendre
accessible à tous... Why not scan the doc and make
it accessible to all ... Ce serait
super bien !! It would be great!!
A Leon : si tu avais
de la doc tres spécifique (schémas
éléctroniques), tu penses que tu pourrais faire
évoluer cette "purée" de clé
éléctronique ? Leon
A: If
you had the doc very specific (Electronic schematics), you think you could
change this "mash" electronic key?
Merci encore de vos remarques. Thank
you again for your comments.
En espérant qu'à plusieurs têtes, on
arrivera à quelque chose !! Hoping
that more heads, we arrive at something!
A+ A +
Jamouille64 Jamouille64 

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le: Jeu 09 09, 2004 22:46 Posted: Thurs, September 9,
2004 10:46 p.m. Sujet du message: Post
subject:
bonsoir a tous, Hey
everybody,
la cle est sauvee sur une ram 5101 sur electronic key module chaque
exploitant avais une cle # mais la firme GAA a brx utilisait le meme
systeme sur le miss 86 avec une cle qui etait la meme pou tous les
exploitants alors peut etre qu il ya moyen de trouve la 2716 + la cle chez
GAA je pense une autre possibilite sauver le contenu de la 5101 sur
ordinateur et charger le contenus sur une eprom en adaptant l electonique
key module mais comment faire? the
key is saved on a ram 5101 electronic key module on each operator had a
key, but the firm # BRX GAA has used the same system on the Miss 86 with a
key that was the same power, so all operators may be that there is a way of
the 2716 + is the key in GAA I think another option to save the contents of
the 5101 computer and load the content on a EPROM by adapting Electonics key module but how? sujet tres interressant about
very interesting a
suivre to follow
marcel marcel
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le: Jeu 09 09, 2004 23:07 Posted: Thurs, September 9,
2004 11:07 p.m. Sujet du message: Post
subject:
Bon.... Well
....
Dans la doc pour l'euro star il est spécifié que si la
led Ek est allumée c'est que le système de protection est
désactivé. In the doc for the euro star it is specified that if the LED is lit Ek is that
the protection system is disabled. Ta led est allumée, ensuite si la led
led21 (led orange jaune chez toi, orange rouge chez moi) est
allumée, c'est que la clé est programmée dans l'eeprom
IC 49 (ref bouquin) Your LED is lit, then if led21
LED (orange LED yellow for you, orange red to me) is on, is that the key is
programmed into the EEPROM IC 49 (book ref)
Si je comprends bien la doc : If I
understand the doc:
Suivant une certaine procédure, il est possible de programmer
le contenu de l'eeprom EK dans le cpu même (de façon non
volatile). According to a certain
procedure, it is possible to program the content of the eeprom
EK in the same cpu (non-volatile). l'eeprom EK peut alors se retirer du cpu. eeprom EK can then remove the cpu. La led orange sur le cpu (LD21) signale si
allumée que la clé est programmée dans l'eeprom IC49. The
orange led on the cpu (LD21) reported on only if
the key is programmed into the eeprom IC49.
Cela veut donc dire que normalement cette clé est dans ton
bingo et ne s'est pas barré. This
means that normally the key is in your bingo and did not strikeout. malheureusement il n'est pas dit ou du moins je
n'ai pas encore vu, comment la récupérer et courcicuiter le
beans... unfortunately it is not said
or at least I have not seen yet, and how to recover courcicuiter
the beans ... Si
c'est comme sur mon bingo, ma eeprom ek n'est plus là et les cables
Ek qui doivent normalement être branché sont
débranchés. If that's on my bingo, ek my eeprom is gone and Ek cables that are normally
connected are unplugged. je
crois qu'en simulant la porte ouverte avec ta service box que tu as pu
mettre le cpu en vrille... I think that simulating the
door open with your service box that you could put the CPU into a spin ... Il doit probablement exister un code pour le
remettre. There probably exists a code
for reuse.
Il faudrait voir avec GAA. Should do with GAA. Ceux-là sont sympa et répondent aux
questions... Those are nice and answered
questions ...
Une fois ceci fait, on met l'info sur le net comme cela plus de
problèmes et en plus on N.... Once
done, we put the info on the net as more and more problems we ... N. ces enfo.... these
ENFO .... de
chez wimi. Wimi home. En général je suis poli mais
là je n'ai jamais vu plus mal léché que ces ours
là... Usually I am polite but then
I've never seen the bears licked badly there ...
De toute façon, il n'y a qu'une explication à tous ces
mytstères sur ces GMI et d'autres bingos. Anyway,
there's only one explanation for all these mytstères
on these GM and other bingo. Ce
sont des bingos fraudés et donc il est difficillement acceptable de
dire qu'ils ont un jour existé. They
are defrauded and bingo so it is difficult thing
acceptable to say they have ever existed. ce qui est complètement débile
puisque wimi figure partout dans la machine... This
is completely stupid because Wimi appears
everywhere in the machine ...
Ca me ferait quand même bien rire si cela leur retombait sur la
tête... It still makes me laugh if
they fell on the head ... (je
n'aime pas quand on m'emmerde...) (I hate when bored ...)
---Pascal m'a bien dépanné. ---
Pascal serviced me well. Il
me reste encore quelques petits trucs à faire pour que le bingo soit
ok. I still have some stuff to do for that bingo is ok.
Merci Pascal tu es BALAISE ! Thank you
Pascal you are brooms!
Pour Eric loiseau, je suis en contact avec lui, je dois
récupérer la doc pour la mettre à disposition sur le
net... For Eric the bird, I am in contact with him, I get the doc to
make it available on the net ...
nb: Demain j'aurais mon monnayeur et je vais péter la cagnotte
:) nb: Tomorrow I would have my
coin and I'll blow up the kitty:)
restera à déconnecter le transfo 110/220 et j'aurais
déjà une machine plus convenable. will
disconnect the transformer to 110/220 and I have a machine more convenient.
Ensuite il faudra comprendre comment le programme fonctionne. Then
he will understand how the program works.
Si Pascal arrive à charger ma rom, on étudiera ce
programme. If Pascal comes to load my rom will study this program.
Cela me plairait bien de le modifier légèrement pour
rendre le bingo plus attrayant (genre un va et vient lumineux comme sur les
bingos actuels...) It would please me to modify
it slightly to make bingo more attractive (like a light comes and goes like
the Bingo today ...)
Et puis on vire une bonne fois pour toute ce test de la clé du
programme ainsi que ces multiples tests à l'effraction
planqués partout dans le bingo. And
then we turn once and for all the key test of the program and that these
multiple tests to burglary stashed around the bingo. Plus de test plus d'emmerdes... More
testing more bullshit ...
Vous aurez des nouvelles du résultats... You'll
hear the results ...
_________________ _________________
Vous connaissez Murphy ? You know Murphy? C'est un pote à moi... It's
a buddy of mine ...
David Dierickx David Dierickx
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le: Mar 04 07, 2006 13:10 Posted: Tues July 4th 2006
1:10 p.m. Sujet du message: Bingo Euro Continental Star de
Wimi Post subject: Bingo Euro
Continental Star Wimi
Bonjour Tout le monde Hello Everyone
Je suis nouveau sur le forum et je suis bien
interressé dans tous l'info de bingo. I'm
new to the forum and I am very interrested in all
the info bingo.
Je suis de belgique donc je vais essayer en francais. I'm
from belgium so I'll try in french.
Bien Well
Pour le clé electronique. For
the electronic key. J'ai
acheté un clé une fois pour mon Bingo. I
bought a key once for my bingo.
Je veut dire le petit clé que tu branche au niveau de
la porte et qui se branche sur un cable qui va vers le PCB CPU. I
mean the little key that you branch at the door and plugs into a cable that
goes to the CPU PCB.
Le vendeur etait un exploitant et il travaille chez un
installateur des bingos. The seller was a farmer and
he worked at a bingo installer.
Il m'a vendu avec EEPROM qui devait correspondre avec le
clé. He sold me with EEPROM,
which should correspond with the key.
Malheureusement ça fonctionnait pas. Unfortunately it not work.
Est-ce qu'on peut pas lire le contenu de cette clé et
copier dans le EEPROM. Is this you cannot read the
contents of this key and copy it into the EEPROM.
Ou si on veut c'est materiel pour etudié. Or
if someone wants it for study material.
J'avais lu quelque part qu'on peut lire le contenu
déjà du EEPROM. I read somewhere that one
can already read the content of EEPROM.
Question avec quelle logiciel et hardware on a fait?? Question
how software and hardware was done??
J'ai deux bingo en code Eb02. I
have two bingo code Eb02.
Donc je suis bien interesser pour les dépanner. So I am very interested to help them out.
merci d'avance thank you in advance
David Dierickx David Dierickx
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le: Dim 17 12, 2006 19:49 Posted: Sun December 17th,
2006 7:49 p.m. Sujet du message: Post
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Il existe 2 versions du module memoire du président. There
are two versions of the memory module of the President.
PZK (Président Zonder Key) Zonder = sans PZK
(President Zonder Key) Zonder
= without
PMK (Président Met Key) Met = avec KMP
(President Puts Key) with Met =
Le modèle PMK de base fonctionne avec une clé 'standard' The
basic model KMP works with a key 'standard'
Les modules PMK peuvent cependant être personnalisés et
correspondent alors chacun à une clé différente. The
modules can however be customized KMP and then correspond each to a
different key.
A ce que j'en sais, le cpu envoie un code dans une ram qui se trouve
sur une carte supplémentaire dans le corps. As
far as I know, the CPU sends a code in a ram that is on an additional card
in the body.
Lorsque l'on ouvre une porte, on coupe l'alim de cette ram (batterie)
ce qui la remet à zéro (ou dans un état
aléatoire) donc sécurité qui fonctionne aussi jeu
coupé. When you open a door, cut the
power supply of this RAM (battery) which delivers it to zero (or in a
random state) so functioning security also game off.
Le jeu ne sortira du code que si on connecte la clé
électronique qui correspond au programme personnalisé. The
game does come out of the code if it connects the electronic key that
corresponds to the custom program.
Ce système était (à l'époque) très
difficile à contrer. This system was (then) very
difficult to counter. Le
mieux serait de pouvoir obtenir des mémoires PZK (chez Wimi peut
être). The best would be to obtain
PZK memories (in Wimi may be).
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From the French Flipjuke
Forum
Bingo problemess Splin
by cede Thurs, May 10th, 2007 9:16
p.m.
hello,
here I possesses two bingo brand Splin - 1
Michigan and a luckyball - I possess the card
code or "telephone" is one-Sirmo Sorex
my question is:
where can I find the codes has introduced and the meaning of codes that
mark in the site credit?
by cede Thurs, May 10th, 2007 9:59
p.m.
yes I already tried. thank you
Do you know a specialized forum on bingo?
thank you a thousand times
cede
by buga21 Fri May 11th 2007 7:28 p.m.
Here you will find a site or a lot of things, you know can
be ...
and also you can contact "school" on this site is his job and he
is to anderlecht ... very nice ...
http://jeux-automatiques.skynetblogs.be/

buga21
by C is good co Sun, May 13, 2007
0:08
Good evening,
The entry code for the Michigan CL, 1.2, XY. Do not forget to put the plug
on the side Sorex on the keyboard, the other I do not know
bingo home SPLINE but may be another brand.
A +
Failure is well explained failure in half solved.
luckyball is the spline (it is a pure one ball)
I will try your codes
So on the keyboard you have 2 output (left-right) and would be for either Sorex Sirmo! Good to know! 
if you had the time doc or any other codes I thank
you in advance
cede
by cede Sun May 13, 2007 4:37 p.m.
forgive my ignorance
I saw on another post that there were some of the doc
on bingo in the "upload the forum"
how can I recover this doc??
thank you a thousand times
cede
by cede Sun May 13, 2007 5:10 p.m.
ok, I put bcp question lol
there is a com port in the bingo?
What is it and can you connect it? or is it just for the flacher rom?
cede
by C is good co Tues, May 15th, 2007
10:32 p.m.
Good evening,
Com port. used to connect a portable with the right software can view a
large amount of data eg
the NBRS of times the ball was in the hole 1
to 25, the nbr of tilts, the different gains of viewed a number of
games past and also to change some settings eg advertising displays etc
...
To meet code door I enclose a copy.
by C is good co Wed, May 16th, 2007
10:40 p.m.
Good evening,
It seems to me easier than you describe the symptoms of your problem bingo,
seen that there is a large amount of different Michigan. At the start
and the display shows 51 increments up to 56, which is
encouraging and indicates a 4 digit code must be
introduced is an xy cl. A +
by cede Thurs, May 17, 2007 2:03 p.m.
it is clear that at startup it displays 51 and 56 and - 4 -
but I will first try everything that I say, I will keep you juice
because my parents are bingos
thank you again to a super convivial forum
cede
by cede Thurs, May 17, 2007 4:36 p.m.
Here thanks to info from "C is co good" and marc I
repair the luckyball
michigan but he insists on two code - 10 - and -
16 -
qq'un knows if that will mean the codes
(It can be a link with the number of the bingo ball)
(When I would repair all the 2, I edit a file to help my neighbor)
thank you again to all
cede
by cede Fri May 18th, 2007 2:32 p.m.
code - 10 - should say that I have reintroduced the date??
but the code - 16 - ????? good question??
cede
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Aeneas on further coding and cheat proffing
Not really too hard..
I believe this is also done in recent bingo
machines.. at least the one I have didn't do a
thing when the
playfield and lockdown bar were not on it..
but a bingo has
buttons
in the lockdown bar so you can check their presence..
but I believe somewhere in the side rails there's also a switch which
checks if the pf glass is on. That's all you need anyway.
Not 100% tamper proof but a little bit more then you have now.
But as bingo machines pay
out they need extra safety to be sure no-one
is cheating with them.. not really a thing you
need on a pinball
machine, so I don't see Stern implementing this, as they're additional
costs..
Another solution would also be a
check in the software how certain
things are triggered, i.e. are switches triggers as during normal game
flow, or i.e. does one hit all targets in the back while the flippers
are not being used ?
But unfortunately this kind of checks is additional programming, which
is time which would better be spend on deeper rulesets..
Only exception is of course if
online pinball tournaments would become
a big hit.. then they probably would have the
possibility to implement
this..
ciao,
Aeneas.
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