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Over the years, Vic has been all over the Internet on the different pinball forums and has started some really cool posts! You can see his many of his visits on the google forum rec.games.pinball and here is one he kicked-off years ago on oldbinger.

 

Vic Camp Jr
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PostPosted: September 16, 2005, 8:03 am 0 GMT    Post subject: "Cheating Tips" for winning on bingo pinball machi

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There are many easy ways to cheat a bingo pinball machines to give the average or master player an advantage to winning on locations or at places like stores or bars etc. These cheating tips below do not pertain to your home use bingo machines of course.

Here were some of my cheating tip secrets to winning on bingo pinball machines below when i played bingos on location from 1968 to 1990.

First: I would bring a level and hide it in my coat or walk into the place hiding it on my side where the store owner couldn't see the level as i entered.


(A bingo machine should always be perfectly level when playing it. I hated when a ball would pull to one side all the time because the game was not level.)

Next: I would go under the machine with help from a friend acting as a decoy and turn the leg leveler feet adjustment inwards lowering the back end of the bingo from it's raised height that the vendor set it at.


(If the back legs are lower the ball can be controlled better when trying to play for winning number combinations.)

Next: I also would put a empty soda can or beer can behind the head or back box of the machine about a little above center of the head or back box and wedge it inbetween the wall and the back of the machine.


(This gives some solid support tightening the bingo up and stops the machine from rocking back and forth and tilting easy when trying to shake it to make your winning numbers.)

Next: I would flick all my ashes from cigarettes i was smoking onto then into the very top of the playfield glass in the right and left corners where the back end of the playfield glass meets the back of the playfield cabinet arch. The trick next was to then gently blow the ashes into the top arch playfield near the 1 thru 7 row of numbered holes. Once most of the ashes have made it into the top arch of the playfield i could then blow harder through the corners of the top of the playfield glass where the glass meet with the arch making the ashes fall onto the top of the playfield further down by the 1 thru 7 numbered holes making the playfield dirty and slower.


(The ashes once on the playfield inside now beneath the playfield glass would slow the ball down even more.)

You can only become a great player through many years and endless hours of playing bingos to have a chance at winning on bingos every time you play one on location. Even the greatest bingo players in the world have some kind of cheating tips when they played on location at places. What’s yours ?

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PostPosted: September 17, 2005, 8:13 am 0 GMT    Post subject:

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I hardly consider leveling a machine left to right cheating, although I can understand why you might not want to get caught doing it. Also, I don't use a level, I just go by how the ball descends and adjust accordingly, although I wonder if you brought a level to help demonstrate honest intent. The idea of putting a can behind the machine is similar to what I used to do, which was simply pushing the machine against whatever was behind it, also not really cheating, unless I was specifically told not to. Lowering the rear is similar to what I saw others doing, which was putting things under the front legs, although this was obvious to the people in charge. I've never heard the trick about the cigarette ashes, but nothing irritates me more than shooting a ball and having it deflected by something at the top of the playfield when I am trying to predict and control its motion, so I would be afraid of doing more harm than good. I've always enjoyed winning fair and square and I guess the closest I've come to cheating involved machines that were defective or poorly modified. I started playing bingos here in Maryland in 1972, but after about 1980, I had a hard time finding them. Maybe I was looking in the wrong state.

Ben

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Jim Hanson
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PostPosted: September 18, 2005, 11:18 am 0 GMT    Post subject: Cheating

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Great topic, and brings to my mind perhaps one of easiest tricks there was on the magic screens, until the "invention" of the swing tilt for the backbox came along and spoiled the fun. I don't see it mentioned in the first two posts, so I thought I'd jump on it while I had the chance. The red and yellow super stripe sections of the MS's tend to favor the left side of the playfield, as I'm sure others may well be aware of. The cabinet tilt isn't always enough to nix the shimming or otherwise raising up of the back right hand side, but an adjustable swing tilt in the backbox is the counter-trick..It wasn't until I went to work for United Coin in Las Vegas that I was fully aware of this, and woe to any of UC's machine movers who didn't level the machine and adjust the swing tilt before they left. Thanks for the topic, Vic. Any more cheating tips out there? Jim H.

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PostPosted: September 19, 2005, 11:13 pm 0 GMT    Post subject:

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Would it be considered cheating to find a Bonanza that gives you odds to the wall, ABCDE, Select after 5th, and automatically 3 numbers on the E line, just for dropping the 40 coin limit and before shooting the first ball, then subsequently raping that machine for oh say about $1200 over the course of 3 days? LOL It could have been closer to 3 or 4 grand, but didn't want to make it too obvious. I guess thats why Bonanza is still my all-time favorite, and one I would love to acquire some day. If anybody happens to have an extra one collecting dust, well I'd be more than happy to take her off your hands! Laughing

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Vic Camp Jr
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PostPosted: September 20, 2005, 8:02 am 0 GMT    Post subject: Cheating on bingos..........

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Ben,
Where i use to play in Newark NJ back in the 1960's thru 1980's stores, bars, coffee shops etc. owners and vendors did not like to pay out to us very good bingo players. They would do anything to the player to get the advantage over us players. So having a slanted unlevel machine wasn't in a players advantage. It screwed things up when the ball would always dirft to one side of the playfield especially when you needed on the other side. Using a level was a quick and easy way to get the game level.

Playing the correct side on a bingo pinball machine is one key to winning along with many other things to do correctly to win on the games. So vendors didn't want the games level because a level game was a advantage to a player, which is true.

I too would just push the machine against the wall at times to make it solid and stop from rocking back and forth, but the store owners could see the game was pushed against the wall from a distance and would come over and pull it off the wall. If you were still not finished playing your game(you might be shooting for a big win to at the time) the store owner still would just pull the game from the wall and even throw you out of the store for a while for not listening to him about jamming the game up against the wall, so the can trick worked well until players who didn't like a stiff solid machine would pull the machine back towards them to removing the can from the back head and wall letting it fall down onto the floor. I hated when other players did this because you always needed two people to set the can back up.

Being a very good player would make you a marked man for vendors and stores operators because if you were playing their bingo and winning most of the time it took away from them making any money from the not so good players who were luking and waiting to dump their money in the game.

The ashes from the cigarettes would flaten out quickly on the very top arch of the playfield because of the speed and power it had leaving the ball shooter and would only deflect the ball for a couple of games if any. We needed to do this as players after the operators would wax the playfields because when they waxed the playfields the ball would move much quicker (out of control) and roll different than we were use to and made us not want to play the game because we would lose our money to fast without winning at all sometimes.

Getting use to the way the ball rolls (controlling the ball) on the playfield is another key to winning replays, so bingos that were on location and were never waxed wouldn't change the way the ball rolled on the playfield therefore giving a player a constant steady knowledge of how the ball was going to react around the playfield made it easy to win. A dirty playfield and ball will slow the ball down allowing a good player to control the ball to go in the direction the player wants the ball to go.

I always heard Maryland having a lot places to play bingos. All i can say is here in New Jersey back around 1960 to 1980 the city was packed with bingo pinball machines just about on location everywhere they could put them. The bingos were mostly 6 card games and there are at least 20 six card games bally manufactured from 1961 to 1979. I hardly ever saw a one card, magic screen, turning corners, etc until i started collecting bingos inthe 1980's. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Vic


PinballBen wrote:

I hardly consider leveling a machine left to right cheating, although I can understand why you might not want to get caught doing it. Also, I don't use a level, I just go by how the ball descends and adjust accordingly, although I wonder if you brought a level to help demonstrate honest intent. The idea of putting a can behind the machine is similar to what I used to do, which was simply pushing the machine against whatever was behind it, also not really cheating, unless I was specifically told not to. Lowering the rear is similar to what I saw others doing, which was putting things under the front legs, although this was obvious to the people in charge. I've never heard the trick about the cigarette ashes, but nothing irritates me more than shooting a ball and having it deflected by something at the top of the playfield when I am trying to predict and control its motion, so I would be afraid of doing more harm than good. I've always enjoyed winning fair and square and I guess the closest I've come to cheating involved machines that were defective or poorly modified. I started playing bingos here in Maryland in 1972, but after about 1980, I had a hard time finding them. Maybe I was looking in the wrong state.

Ben

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PostPosted: September 24, 2005, 7:14 pm 0 GMT    Post subject:

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What an interesting contrast. I played only single card machines and didn't even know six card machines even existed until I started collecting about a year ago.

Ben

 

 

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