June 10,2010



……….No, No! Really, I got a million of em……….



Mr. FRFlemming:@ao  (Alan) wrote me on May 11, 2002 a small email talking about himself and Phil Anderson:


Thanks for writing. My history with these games started in 1981, just about the time I got associated with Phil. My knowledge of these games came from Phil. I’ve found the stories about players and the location proprietors the most interesting along with the ways operators got around the flood of regulations that aimed at these machines. It was interesting how officials tried to define these games. The Sea Fair game is simply a Big Show with odds no higher that 160 to comply with the laws. The glass was done by Bally specifically for Washington State, which is Phil’s home state. His history started with the one ball games. These games are of the most interesting to him.   I worked with him on the route. We had some colorful players, of which the stories still amuse us. Phil has amassed a great deal of knowledge and I would surely consider him to be the greatest authority on these games, but it’s hard to pin him down to take the time to talk about the games. Russ has spent a great deal of time with him, which is great because Russ has done so much for the hobby. I would be interested in the Hooker interview myself, as I know very little about him and have always wondered about him. I only recently learned that he passed away. Keep me posted I’ll look forward to hearing from you. Keep up the good work Thanks ALAN.





Recently I was on a mission to find another Big Time so “my kids” would be able to play, and found one at the CA Extreme show. Man, what a kick to play the machine again. I have to admit though, I’m still on the honeymoon if you know what I mean. Although some might argue that the gambling  aspect is the attraction, in a way I have to agree. Sure, it’s fun to have that “unknown” aspect of not knowing what you’ll get from game to game. But show me a bingo machine owner, and I’ll show you someone who would never turn down a trip to Vegas!


Regards, Tom Clawges.






Message 9 in Thread Date: 1998/09/25

Big Time came out in 1954 right after Palm Beach (53)…a matter of weeks after. Nov I think, and the BT followed in Jan, maybe a s late as Feb.

Looks like your machine may be worth a little bit more, if years count. The game is developed skill and learning is part of the “fun”.



Message 10 in Thread Date: 1998/09/27

Oh yes I Worked on the very first ones, Bright Lites by Bally…………..I remember when we un-packed the game and put it together….all of us in the shop could not figure out why….the motors kept on running, and running….because all of the other Pin balls, Never had a motor running……….unless it had a run switch closed….But that was shock! HOWARD LOWE.





Message 2 in Thread Date: 1995/04/07

The machines were  “gambling” machines all the way! I’ve played 5 cent, 10 cent, and 25 cent based machines. Whatever the base was you could play many coins., in an effort to raise the payout odds and features. Odds were expressed as 3 numbers (i.e. 4/16/96) which would mean 4 “credits” for 3 in a row, 16 for 4 in a row, and 96 for 5 in a row – There were 2 of these machines at a pool hall when I was at Virginia Tech (1974-77). They were 10 cent based and you could generally get a decent game for a buck.





Message 2 in Thread Date: 2001-06-10

“6 cards vs. Mystic Lines”

You can compare the features of the two machines here and see which you would prefer. Six-card machines generally limited coin play to avoid the “multiple coins to increase the odds” definition of gambling machines.






The switch on the bottom of the cabinet is likely a “knock-off” switch, you push it when the power is on and it causes the anti-cheat relay to open. When that happens, the replay reset relay closes and the credits on the replay register get reset to zero. Bally removed the “knock off” switch because it was specifically referenced in the Johnson Act as a feature of a gambling device. Instead, you just turn off/on the game and the same thing happens. Take care, Phil.





50 for Sale


Bingo Pinball Machines, Bally: make offers
I have over 50 bingo pinballs off route condition and complete.
Tom, Phone: 865-924-3876
Knoxville, Tennessee

Posted: 27 February 2007




1997 was a hot year for Bingo Sales:






There is a fellow in Sparks, NV, Phil Anderson, who has a business called American Pins.  He is a licensed person and former Bally employee who ran bingo

routes at one time.  They are not legal in Nevada at the present time because the odds are not well defined.


He received certification as an expert on the machines to be able to testify about the true odds going through the reflex unit, spotting disk and mixers. 

Still, no approval because of a lack of accounting system that seems to be built into modern slots.


Phil partnered with Alan Marriage to advertise and sell his warehouse of bingos and slots.  Some of these old machines are the one-balls, 1953 and prior. 

I came to know these fellows through Hooper and Jensen.  I bought my Silver Sails out of that pile.  The backup service for troubleshooting and parts has been good,

so I really recommend them although their prices may be a wee high.


To say thank you to them for the help and to help them sell machines, I have listed a part of their inventory on my site.  The Sea Fair is one of those

machines; I tossed the photo over to Hooper.


Hooper explained that backglass rescreening was done to alter the names and sometimes characteristics of machines.  Notice that Sea Fair odds do not go to the top. 

When law enforcement had a list of "factory" machines defined as illegal, these machines did not fit that definition.


If you want to chase more history, write to Alan as to see if he can elaborate on where the Sea Fair came from.


Thanks again














bingo dollar accepter













(In Fond Memory Of)


Bingo r us


Hello, My name is Dr Bud Morrow, I have been dubbed "the largest seller of collectible Bally Bingo Pinball Machines" on the net. It is strictly a "hobby" to me and

I DO NOT sell to game operators who might place these old gambling machines back out in public in violation of some state laws. I grew up playing

these old games in Ft. Smith, Arkansas in the late 50's and early 60's. I have grown to love the hobby and am ALWAYS looking for warehouses full

of stored bingo's to buy and restore!! I am (55) now and am retired and have a doctorate in Naturopathic Oncology. I have had cancer and got over

it successfully using "alternative therapy". I also sell on eBay under the user ID "Bingosrus".




lbarry7...@aol.com wrote:
I just picked up a Bingo game made by Bally 1951 "Bright Eyes." I can't
find any information on this. I only found "Bright Lights."

Anyone know of this game. Is it rare?



It's a Bright Spot with an overpaint on the name and the fourth, fifth
and sixth cards blacked out. An operator obviously trying to skirt the
old laws.

Phil B.




Measuring 24" x 22" - this Bally Bright Lights Bingo Backglass was Bally's first in-line bingo machine. Bally saw the market for one-ball machines - which

they practically owned - drying up due  to legislation that specifically identified one-balls as gambling devices. While United's ABC beat Bally to market

by a few months, Bally's playfield layout became the standard for bingo's.  Game play doesn't get much simpler than this. Deposit one coin/credit per card,

and shoot the five balls. If you get three or more in a line, you win. This is also one of the few games that had a manual ball lifter. It didn't matter if you

shot all five balls at once...there were no features that depended on you doing something before a certain ball was shot, and there were no extra balls.

The payouts were adjustable by the operator using plugs inside the machine. Bally provided different award cards for the operator to display on the playfield.

The main adjustement was for the 5-in-line score, which could be as low as 100. The game type has 6 5x5 bingo cards on the backglass. Most games enable

one card per coin/credit guaranteed, but a few enable the additional cards on  mystery intervals. Individual numbers light on all enabled cards at the same

time, and wins on each card were scored separately, although only the highest winner on each card counted (i.e. if you had two 3-in-line winners on the same

card, you got paid for only one. If you had a 3-in-line and a 4-in-line on the same card, you got paid the 4-in-line amount). To encourage maximum coins

to be played, the payouts generally increased  for successive cards. The max payout for a game is usually only obtainable on card #6.





Burning bingos


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From: "frog" <van.ne...@verizon.net>

Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 20:33:40 GMT

Local: Sat, Jun 3 2006 12:33 pm

Subject: recycling bingos


with the prices for recycled copper nowadays, anyone willing to venture a
SWAG at how much copper is in a bingo machine?

Back in the old days my Father and others would burn games and then sell the
copper. LTG :) "frog" <van.ne...@verizon.net> wrote in message





Center for contemporary arts


Rather than mirroring or representing reality, Gert Robijns’ (°1972) works are conceived as extensions of it. Robijns operates with a minimum of signals

that can be sounds but equally a change in temperature, a gust of wind or a flickering light bulb, to generate a peripheral snippet of our attention.

Notwithstanding their minimal  enunciative potential, Robijns transposes these signals into extensive installations. In 1997 he laid out an outdoor

landscape made up of polystyrene beads hemmed in by the boundaries of an existing tennis court and covered with a transparent plastic roof. On

the ground between the thick layers of beads, ventilators blew the beads, occasionally exposing the terrain and placing its viewers in another time

where, between the play of natural and artificial wind, any deceleration became a performance in slow motion. Robijns is focusing and scattering our

perceptions by adding sounds or images to a space like pixels fill in the digital realm. In that enhanced space a network of triggers unfolds like an

index of space, time and subjectivity. Another work, “Curtain,” is a video of a curtain projected onto a curtain in a 1:1 ratio. The video creates the

illusion of wind occasionally rustling the fabric, as if from an open window, while an audio loop of incidental noises that are brought in by the imaginary

wind triggers recollected experience. Recently Robijns took on a number of works from the Antwerp Museum of Contemporary Art (MuHKA) in a

comparable way, reproducing works of the collection in life-size grayscale. A billiard table, a bingo pinball, and a number of Robijns’ photographs

and videos stand out on carbon copies of a painting by Bernard Frieze, a triptych by Ettore Spaletti, and a table by Hermann Pitz. Like muzak,

where a number of frequencies are eliminated from sound to divert or direct our emotions, Robijns cuts the over-and-undertones from the works

without ever really making them absent. The museum is put on standby, the added ideological echoes of its space tuned down in order to focus

on a potentially new reification of signifiers.








Chuck's operators charged with gambling promotion

Published 12/29/2006 By BECKY CAMPBELL


Kingsport police officers seized these three vintage pinball machines after Friday's arrests at Chuck's Drive-In. Contributed photo. --------------------------

KINGSPORT - Lunch for four police officers in plainclothes on Friday offered more than a meal after they saw a customer allegedly receive a pinball machine

payout from a Chuck's Drive-In employee. Kingsport Police Department Vice Detective Sgt. Tim Crawford said he, a second KPD vice officer and two 2nd

Judicial Drug Task Force officers were eating lunch at Chuck's on Industry Drive on Friday when they observed a customer playing bingo-style pinball machines.

The officers observed the man, later identified as Howard Lee Nelms, 55, of Kingsport, playing the machines. At one point, Nelms nodded to the restaurant

manager, later identified as Theresa Marcus, 39, of Piney Flats. Crawford said Marcus looked at the point totals on the machines, went into the office, and

returned with cash for the customer. "It was obvious she was paying off the points total," Crawford said. Marcus' husband, Travis Marcus, 38, also of Piney Flats,

who co-owns Chuck's, entered the restaurant, and the officers observed him have a conversation with Nelms about the payout, according to Crawford. The

officers approached the three about the activity. All three were arrested - Nelms on a charge of gambling, and Travis and Theresa Marcus on a single count

each of aggravated gambling promotion. When police interviewed her, Theresa Marcus said she paid the money because of an error in the machine. In another

statement to police, Marcus said she paid $50 for 500 accrued points on the machine, according to Crawford. In addition to the arrests, police seized three bingo

pinball machines, $480 from Nelms and $1,650 from the business. Travis Marcus and a business partner recently leased Chuck's and reopened the iconic restaurant

last month after a brief closure. The men said at the time the restaurant reopened that they planned to restore it to a true drive-in and would keep some of the

longtime equipment - including those three vintage pinball machines that are now evidence in three criminal cases.



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Gezocht: de Bally Bingo Parade en de Gay Time

Frans Pilger verzamelt al jaren unieke exemplaren Bally Bingo’s, gokkasten uit de jaren ’50 en ’60. Een Bally Bingo lijkt qua uiterlijk op een flipperkast. Bij Bally Bingo maak je met vijf speelballen een combinatie in kleuren of patronen op het speelveld.
Inmiddels heeft Frans zo’n zeventig kasten. Hij zoekt nog de Bally Bingo Parade en de Gay Time uit de jaren ’50.
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Russ, I still love "Counterfeit Cowboy"..Play it almost daily. About a guy who goes into a bar that has a Bingo machine. He orders "Ten Rolls of Nickels, & a Schlitz"

Right Russ???..EL


Carl Witthoft writes:

I wuz listening to a jazz show today, and they put on a swing band number from the early 40's called "Pinball Paul."

If anyone would like to download that song I just discovered there is a copy of it on NAPSTER which I just finished downloading.


Russ Jensen

Glen Miller?



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SØGES : bally super 7 - bingo pinballs maskine . en maskine hvor man skyder 5 kugler , der skal kombineres med nogle farver i gevinstfeltet,

afhængigt hvor høj en indsats / scoore man har opnået.  er der nogle her der kender sådan et spil , og om det er til salg ??? jeg spillede det første

gang i starten af 70'erne , er senest mødt på det ved " bakkehuset " mellem hillerød - fredensborg i 1993 , hvor mønt  indsatsen var 1 kr. - der var

engang et til salg på QXL. men det var alt for defekt til at jeg ville købe det,og der manglede alt for meget til det..... så hvis der er nogle herinde

der ved noget om det , så giv endelig besked .. på forhånd tak. mvh leon.





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Diskussionsforum für Flipper


Geschrieben von charly am 13.12.2002 09:45



suche dringend eine Bingo-Maschine. Bevorzugt:


Golden Gate

Silver Sails

Miss America 75

Miss America Deluxe

Miss America Supreme


Wer so ein Teil verkauft, oder jemanden kennt, der so ein Teil verkauft oder jemanden kennt, der jemanden kennt ... na ihr wisst schon :-)

Bitte melden. Danke für eure Hilfe





History IV

At the height of its efficiency, Murder, Inc. was probably responsible for a thousand killings from coast to coast. Guns and knives were used, of course, but so were

more imaginative methods like cremation, slow strangling, quicklime and live burial. Some killers liked the icepick – properly inserted into the ear, a skilled killer

could scramble a bum’s brains and make it look like a cerebral hemorrhage. One gangster who had cheated his compatriots out of their take of a gambling operation

was stabbed and then tied to a pinball machine and dumped into a lake. Until it was broken by a stool pigeon with first-hand knowledge of dozens of killings, Murder,

Inc. operated quietly and ruthlessly, rubbing out gangsters who had run afoul of the cartel and lawmen who threatened its existence.



D. The Rise of the Pinball Machine

According to one commentator, slot machine gambling might not have survived World War II if not for the rise of a wholly new form of entertainment--the

pinball machine.40 First marketed around 1930, early pinball machines were nothing more than glass covered labyrinths (constructed of nails or "pins") into

which a player could propel steel balls. Numbered holes, into which the steel balls rolled, provided the player with his or her score. With the advent of

electrification, they evolved into the pinball machine still popular today, with an illuminated backboard, ringing bells, flashing lights, and bright colors. Early

pinball machines were designed solely for amusement purposes. In 1935, however, pinball manufacturers added a new feature that ultimately would be

seized upon by gambling operators--the free replay.41 If a player achieved a sufficiently high score, the machine would permit the player to play one or more

additional games without depositing another coin. With the proliferation of the free replay, however, a new controversy arose as to whether free replays

transformed pinball machines into gambling devices. Pinball machines clearly exhibited the elements of consideration and chance. Thus, if the free replay

was considered a "reward," all of the traditional elements of gambling would be present. State courts were widely split on the issue of whether free replays

constituted a reward.42 While this divergence may be attributed to differences in state statutes, there was also a more fundamental difference in perception

between those courts that viewed a free replay as a reward43 and those that did not.44 The courts that viewed free replays as a reward often expressed concern

over the difference in the return that could be received from each coin.45 Some of these courts even peculated that free replays might foster the gambling

spirit.46 Courts taking the contrary position  viewed the value of the free replays as de minimis, or merely as part of the play given for the initial coin.47

Ultimately, free replays became an accepted standard, and were no longer of great concern to law enforcement agencies. Gambling operators exploited the

free replay feature by adding knock-off switches and meters to amusement-only pinball machines. With the advent of knock-off  switches and meters, pinball

machines clearly crossed over the gambling threshold. Under this system, the number of free replays is registered on the machine. When the player wants to

"cash-in,"  he or she goes to the proprietor. The size of the payout will depend on the number of replays registered on the machine. The proprietor then flips

the knock-off switch, which erases the free replays from  the machine. The meter records the number of free replays that have been erased or "knocked off."

The machine owner/operator, on a regularly scheduled trip to the location, checks the meter and, from the  money in the machine coin box, reimburses the

proprietor for all payouts made.48 Any remaining profits in the coin box are then split between the proprietor and the operator. The operator and the proprietor

are thus left in the same position as if the machine itself had made payments to the successful player.49 Although knock-off switches and meters succeeded in

transforming pinball machines into gambling devices, the stakes involved were very limited. It was not long, however, before inventive gambling operators found

a way around this limitation--the multiple coin slot. The multiple coin slot allowed the player to deposit more than one coin at a time. As a result, a player's

payout would increase proportionally to the number of coins deposited. Alternatively, if the player had accumulated several "free replays," he or she could play

more than one of them at a time.50 With this addition, the player could be playing a "nickel" machine, but still have the chance to win over sixty dollars on a single

play.51 On today's "quarter" machines, the gambler can win up to one thousand dollars.52



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Posted: 21 April 2002



Pinball machines, like many other mechanical games, were sometimes used as gambling devices. Some pinball machines, such as Bally's "bingos",

featured a grid on the backglass scoring area.  Free games could be won if the player was skillful enough to get three balls in a row. However, doing

this was nearly random, and the real use for such machines was for gambling (similar to the way many places now use video poker). Other machines

allowed a player to accumulate large numbers of free "games" which could then be redeemed for money. This type of feature was later discontinued,

in an effort to legitimize the machines. Nevertheless, on occasion pinball games have been regulated or banned, notably in New York City beginning

in the 1940s and continuing until 1976, when Roger Sharpe (a star witness for the Music and Amusement Association and known by many to be a superb

player), after testifying in April 1976 before a commitee in a Manhattan courtroom that pinball games had become games of skill and were no longer

games of chance (gambling), began to play one of two games set up in the courtroom, and — in a move he compares to Babe Ruth's home run in the

1932 World Series — called out precisely what he was going to shoot for, and then proceeded to do exactly so. Astonished committee members reportedly

then voted to remove the ban, a result which was then followed in many other cities. Even so, some towns in America still have these bans on the law books

over fifty years later. (Sharpe reportedly acknowledges his courtroom shot was ironically lucky.) Most recent games are clearly labeled "FOR AMUSEMENT ONLY"

so that the manufacturer can emphasize their legitimate, legal nature.






Most happy to get rid of



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From: "frenchy" <mf101...@msn.com>

Date: 28 Sep 2006 16:32:28 -0700

Local: Thurs, Sep 28 2006 3:32 pm

Subject: Re: What pin were you most happy to get rid of?


The Zodiac bingo I sold for $90 (at a great discount off what I paid.)
If the guy had started picking at it I would have let him have it for





My Life

Howard Norfolk




I bought a modern pinball machine for my first rec. room, and then picked an ‘antique’ one from the 1950s. That sparked an interest in the history of pinball

and other games, and I started to collect and research them. At one time I had four pinballs from the early 1930s, a 1937 Bally “Bumper”, two 1950s ‘Bingo’

gambling pinballs, as well as the original two and some other arcade games. I corresponded with foremost authority Dick Bueschel of Chicago, who wrote a

book: Pinball 1: Illustrated Historical Guide to Pinball Machines. 1988. Hoflin Publishing. There are several photos of my machines in this book, and I am thanked

in the Preface. The North Vancouver museum once had a special exhibition of arcade games, and I lent them some of my collection.



1931 "Whiz Bang"                               1932 "The President"                     1937 Bally Bumper


A corner of my living area at CapilanoRoad - ‘Frolics.” from the ’ 80s’,
a 1951‘Bingo’ gambling game (these were made illegal in 1951, hence
its goodcondition), and my English ‘bar billiards’ game.





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Seems to me that your "old" friend talks about a bingo or "kast" as we call
it here. In belgium you can hardly find pinballs in bars, they'll almost
always have a bingo there though. It's kind of like a jackpot, but with a bit
more of human input, at least you'd think so. You can win quite a lot of
money and you can loose even more.
Tim Wolff
Belgium, Europe



Hi All,
  I watched "City By The Sea" on DVD tonight.  There's a pin in the
diner scene, the 2nd scene, about 4 minutes into the movie.  It's an
EM, only the head visible.  A line going across the head, dancing
stick people.  Maybe a Williams EM, late 60's or early 70's,  judging
by the stick people art. Maybe somebody's seen this movie, and id'd
the pin?  Also, about an hour into the movie, scene 18, abandoned
casino, there's a side view of a white pinball head, maybe a bingo
head with red and blue sails on the side.  Ideas?

There was also what appeared to be some kind of bingo or pin, orange
cabinet in the first casino scene earlier in the flick, but hard to






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