Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Down

« previous next »

 

Reply  |  Notify  |  Mark unread  |  Send this topic  |  Print

 

 

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/topic/veryhot_post.gif

Author

Topic: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens  (Read 287 times)

bingopinballs and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

Top of Form

Austwide

Trade Count: (0)
Pinball Novice
*
OfflineOffline

Location: Frankston
Posts: 16


View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« on: March 29, 2015, 07:17:59 PM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Hi Guys
I have a Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens that really should go to heaven, but I am too addicted to Bingos.
I have a 20 hole Hawaii that I have more or less sorted so I have now dragged out the Cypress.
When I played these back in the 70's many were converted into "Baseball" machines due to them being illegal.
The playfields and cabinets were repainted, a solenoid operated bat replaced the shooter and the back glass replaced.

This one has the painted playfield, no back glass and the cabinet was repainted but has since rotted away the end where the head sits. The wooden rails were hacked off and replaced with SS metal ones. This machine can not go back to original due to no good cabinet parts.

I am going to rebuild it as a baseball themed game. I remember them better as that anyway. I am staying with the green painted playfield with white diamond. I will patch up the cabinet and paint that to suit the playfield. Not sure about the back glass, but will print something when  I think of something.

The wiring has been heavily modified which I will rip out and wire back to original.

This will be a big project but all the bingos seem to have disappeared and haven't found a easier one to fix.

I need a bit of help
As I said the wooden rails were hacked off. Can anyone send a photo of the profile and dimensions of the wooden rails so I can try to duplicate them on to the splintered wood I now have.

If anyone has a Cypress, can you tell me what's supposed to be in the lower cabinet so I can remove the contactor, proximity switch, stepper unit etc that I see as modifications.

The baseball bat setup is missing, anyone know any details of how they were? Probably end up going back to the standard shooter.

I need a long wet winter to keep me shed bound!

Cheers Guys
Andy

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

ddstoys

Trade Count: (+23)
Pinball Wizard
******
OfflineOffline

Location: Geelong
Posts: 8309

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=40828;type=avatar



View ProfileEmailPersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2015, 07:40:20 PM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Good luck with the project I have a cypress gardens Backglass ornfor something unique a custom Backglass or glasses for these games called fun machine if your interested in either

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

Strangeways

Pinball Restoration is my passion
Administrator
Trade Count: (+9)
Pinball Wizard
*****
OfflineOffline

Location: Melbourne
Posts: 12910

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=32750;type=avatar


ABN 68 283 634 461


View ProfileWWWEmailPersonal Message (Offline)

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2015, 07:08:04 AM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Sounds like you have one of my Dad's old Bingos. Where are you located ?

Unfortunately, I am not very good as these machines. I have restored a Miami Beach with Dad, but I did the cosmetic stuff. Dad and my Uncle used to fix these in their sleep. I do have a Cypress Gardens, pulled out of hibernation (hidden since 1991) - here is the thread - http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=12180.0

In terms of Backglasses - I might have a spare, or Daniel has one as mentioned.

There is a guy on Youtube that has some excellent guides - well worth the $

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrIZnpAJ_8I" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrIZnpAJ_8I</a>

You have a unique project on your hands. document it here and you might have some assistance as you progress.

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged


Aussie Pinball - Proud to be Australia's Premier Pinball Forum

APR - Australian CPR Distributor

http://www.australianpinballrestorations.com.au/

http://www.rtbb.com.au/catalog/

We carry the largest range of NEW Ramps in Australia

oldskool1969

Trade Count: (0)
Pinball Wizard
******
OfflineOffline

Location: perth
Posts: 935

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=44761;type=avatar



View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2015, 08:57:02 AM »

Reply with quoteQuote


I would like to play a BINGO machine one day. I too would look forward to seeing a thread on restoration.
Does this Dude also sell hair colour swell?  whistle

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged


Share the STOKE!
Looking forward to WNBJM

Retropin

Trade Count: (+4)
Pinball Wizard
******
OfflineOffline

Posts: 5443

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/retropin/WottoPics22_zps162fe6fd.jpg


Licensed supplier of Gottlieb cabinet stencils...


View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2015, 04:49:08 PM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Hair colour is the new Noir...

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged


Restoration.... its our business
www.flipperescue.com

Austwide

Trade Count: (0)
Pinball Novice
*
OfflineOffline

Location: Frankston
Posts: 16


View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2015, 06:58:49 PM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Hi Guys
Thanks for the replies.
I sort of knew where I was going with the Cypress, now I am not sure.
I didn't expect a backglass to be available, but now only a day later, there are 2.

Ddstoys, I am interested in talking to about your backglass, is that the one in Strangeways link? Also, what are the fun machines glasses you mention?

Strangeways, I should also talk to you about your backglass, is it the plexiglass shown in the link. The link you posted is fantastic, I believe this was once one of your fathers machines. I live in Melbourne and the machine came from Brunswick. My playfield is all green except around the holes and numbers with the same white diamond. The same ss covers were on the 2 front corners (now removed).
If someome can tell me how to post a pic I will put it on here with some progress shot from time to time.
Are the playfields converted to bats? I haven't seen the red covers before and you still have the shooter.
Yes I have Richards video set but need to get his hair color (hair too).

Andy

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

Retropin

Trade Count: (+4)
Pinball Wizard
******
OfflineOffline

Posts: 5443

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/retropin/WottoPics22_zps162fe6fd.jpg


Licensed supplier of Gottlieb cabinet stencils...


View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2015, 07:01:36 PM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Quote from: Austwide on March 30, 2015, 06:58:49 PM

Hi Guys
Thanks for the replies.
I sort of knew where I was going with the Cypress, now I am not sure.
I didn't expect a backglass to be available, but now only a day later, there are 2.

Ddstoys, I am interested in talking to about your backglass, is that the one in Strangeways link? Also, what are the fun machines glasses you mention?

Strangeways, I should also talk to you about your backglass, is it the plexiglass shown in the link. The link you posted is fantastic, I believe this was once one of your fathers machines. I live in Melbourne and the machine came from Brunswick. My playfield is all green except around the holes and numbers with the same white diamond. The same ss covers were on the 2 front corners (now removed).
If someome can tell me how to post a pic I will put it on here with some progress shot from time to time.
Are the playfields converted to bats? I haven't seen the red covers before and you still have the shooter.
Yes I have Richards video set but need to get his hair color (hair too).

Andy


Make that 3... pretty sure I have a Cypress Gardens BG also

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged


Restoration.... its our business
www.flipperescue.com

Strangeways

Pinball Restoration is my passion
Administrator
Trade Count: (+9)
Pinball Wizard
*****
OfflineOffline

Location: Melbourne
Posts: 12910

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=32750;type=avatar


ABN 68 283 634 461


View ProfileWWWEmailPersonal Message (Offline)

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2015, 07:26:40 AM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Quote from: Austwide on March 30, 2015, 06:58:49 PM

Hi Guys
Thanks for the replies.
I sort of knew where I was going with the Cypress, now I am not sure.
I didn't expect a backglass to be available, but now only a day later, there are 2.

Ddstoys, I am interested in talking to about your backglass, is that the one in Strangeways link? Also, what are the fun machines glasses you mention?

Strangeways, I should also talk to you about your backglass, is it the plexiglass shown in the link. The link you posted is fantastic, I believe this was once one of your fathers machines. I live in Melbourne and the machine came from Brunswick. My playfield is all green except around the holes and numbers with the same white diamond. The same ss covers were on the 2 front corners (now removed).
If someome can tell me how to post a pic I will put it on here with some progress shot from time to time.
Are the playfields converted to bats? I haven't seen the red covers before and you still have the shooter.
Yes I have Richards video set but need to get his hair color (hair too).

Andy


Dad installed the SS panels so the artwork was concealed. When these machines were being viewed as "gambling devices" there was an easy way to solve the issue - SS paned and place the games behind a curtain in a back room. These "back rooms" were in Carlton, Brunswick, Thornbury, Northcote Reservoir and Moonee Ponds. The original siderails were removed as they could be removed easily. Some had bats and some didn't. They were converted to remove the ability for the player to adjust the tension of the ball speed. Again, to foil the authorities - it became a game of "chance". The legs were sometimes removed and replaced with steel legs as they copped a pounding on site.

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged


Aussie Pinball - Proud to be Australia's Premier Pinball Forum

APR - Australian CPR Distributor

http://www.australianpinballrestorations.com.au/

http://www.rtbb.com.au/catalog/

We carry the largest range of NEW Ramps in Australia

ddstoys

Trade Count: (+23)
Pinball Wizard
******
OfflineOffline

Location: Geelong
Posts: 8309

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=40828;type=avatar



View ProfileEmailPersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2015, 09:07:30 AM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Converted to a bat game sounds interesting

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

Austwide

Trade Count: (0)
Pinball Novice
*
OfflineOffline

Location: Frankston
Posts: 16


View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2015, 04:01:29 PM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Hi Guys
A pic of cabinet and playfield, no original artwork.

and a pic from Danny's bingo site showing a Melbourne Baseball bat bingo (not mine).


http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13601.0;attach=47672;image
* unknown base.jpg (301 KB, 1200x1600 - viewed 10 times.)
http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13601.0;attach=47674;image
* image005[1].jpg (51.21 KB, 500x667 - viewed 12 times.)

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

ddstoys

Trade Count: (+23)
Pinball Wizard
******
OfflineOffline

Location: Geelong
Posts: 8309

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=40828;type=avatar



View ProfileEmailPersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2015, 06:51:22 PM »

Reply with quoteQuote


That's cool.  And answers a question I have one of them bats

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

ddstoys

Trade Count: (+23)
Pinball Wizard
******
OfflineOffline

Location: Geelong
Posts: 8309

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=40828;type=avatar



View ProfileEmailPersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2015, 06:12:42 AM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Here are some pics of the Backglasses
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/31/b9f281b3e91898dd3454537d15f2c518.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/31/430c189326d3b227a5758ceec96ad0b5.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/31/c473675fffea7d022ec446137a8cf290.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/31/8862501ce96cdf9fd6fbbaafb7b88b51.jpg

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

Austwide

Trade Count: (0)
Pinball Novice
*
OfflineOffline

Location: Frankston
Posts: 16


View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2015, 06:06:04 PM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Wow the Cypress Gardens backglass looks so good. The Fun Machine doesn't jog any memories and I don't think anything else will.
I am starting to consider going back to original, probably depends on how the cabinet comes up.
That said, the playfield is a piece of history but may look strange with the Cypress backglass.
The other option is a different playfield or I think I saw playfield stickers.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this.
The bat Ddstoys mentioned - although I remember playing these with the bat I can't recall which button operated the bat.
I can try to trace the wiring on this one but when it came apart many years ago, the wiring didn't go through Jones plug and was cut to allow disassembly. Most wiring was fig8 and hard to trace. I don't recall when the bat could be operated, though the shooter is available anytime after the spin cycle so maybe it doesn't matter.

A photo of some of the modified wiring plus a large 240/110 V transformer.


http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13601.0;attach=47676;image
* Photo0056.jpg (702.79 KB, 2048x1536 - viewed 8 times.)

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

Brunswick Brawler

Trade Count: (0)
Pinball Expert
****
OfflineOffline

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 110

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=45182;type=avatar



View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2015, 06:31:31 PM »

Reply with quoteQuote


I recognise these from 70 Lygon Street East Brunswick!

I saw them in storage there about two years ago.  The location was then a vacant downstairs shop downstairs, and a boarding house upstairs for young Italians on working visas (I presume they were legal).

The then owner of the shop, and presumably those pins, owns DOC's on Lygon St Carlton, Faraday St Carlton and Mornington.  Nino:  From that info your dad could probably give you the history of where those pins were operated, and perhaps who obtained them from him?

When the vacant shop became a shop again, I held hope the machines weren't trashed.  I'm pleased to see someone got them for the purpose of attempting to restore them.

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

Strangeways

Pinball Restoration is my passion
Administrator
Trade Count: (+9)
Pinball Wizard
*****
OfflineOffline

Location: Melbourne
Posts: 12910

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=32750;type=avatar


ABN 68 283 634 461


View ProfileWWWEmailPersonal Message (Offline)

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2015, 07:33:18 AM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Quote from: Brunswick Brawler on April 01, 2015, 06:31:31 PM

I recognise these from 70 Lygon Street East Brunswick!

I saw them in storage there about two years ago.  The location was then a vacant downstairs shop downstairs, and a boarding house upstairs for young Italians on working visas (I presume they were legal).

The then owner of the shop, and presumably those pins, owns DOC's on Lygon St Carlton, Faraday St Carlton and Mornington Nino:  From that info your dad could probably give you the history of where those pins were operated, and perhaps who obtained them from him?

When the vacant shop became a shop again, I held hope the machines weren't trashed.  I'm pleased to see someone got them for the purpose of attempting to restore them.


They would no doubt once belonged to my Father's business. The painted playfield denotes it was his - he converted many Bingos to "Baseball" themes which the diamond an the green painted playfields (grass) is a giveaway. As to where they were operated - No idea - would be one of the many Italian coffee Shops in Lygon st / Sydney Rd.

These are popping up everywhere at the moment. I love hearing that they have been rescued. I know we threw out 90 in one day. I know at least 16 were hidden. I have 5, and relatives have another 5-6. But prior to the legalization in 1991, Dad sold quite a few to collectors - these were also in homes well before the "home collection" as we know it, started.

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged


Aussie Pinball - Proud to be Australia's Premier Pinball Forum

APR - Australian CPR Distributor

http://www.australianpinballrestorations.com.au/

http://www.rtbb.com.au/catalog/

We carry the largest range of NEW Ramps in Australia

bingopinballs and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

Top of Form

GORGAR 1

Trade Count: (0)
Pinball Wizard
******
OfflineOffline

Location: BROOKFIELD-MELBOURNE
Posts: 3205

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=46919;type=avatar



View ProfileEmailPersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2015, 09:16:43 AM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Quote from: Brunswick Brawler on April 01, 2015, 06:31:31 PM

I recognise these from 70 Lygon Street East Brunswick!

I saw them in storage there about two years ago.  The location was then a vacant downstairs shop downstairs, and a boarding house upstairs for young Italians on working visas (I presume they were legal).

The then owner of the shop, and presumably those pins, owns DOC's on Lygon St Carlton, Faraday St Carlton and Mornington.  Nino:  From that info your dad could probably give you the history of where those pins were operated, and perhaps who obtained them from him?

When the vacant shop became a shop again, I held hope the machines weren't trashed.  I'm pleased to see someone got them for the purpose of attempting to restore them.


That's a cool story thanks for sharing :) I never get sick of operator story from years ago

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

ddstoys

Trade Count: (+23)
Pinball Wizard
******
OfflineOffline

Location: Geelong
Posts: 8309

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=40828;type=avatar



View ProfileEmailPersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2015, 04:13:25 PM »

Reply with quoteQuote


So are these bingos legal now niño?

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

Austwide

Trade Count: (0)
Pinball Novice
*
OfflineOffline

Location: Frankston
Posts: 16


View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2015, 07:09:35 AM »

Reply with quoteQuote


I recognise these from 70 Lygon Street East Brunswick!

I saw them in storage there about two years ago.  The location was then a vacant downstairs shop downstairs, and a boarding house upstairs for young Italians on working visas (I presume they were legal).

The then owner of the shop, and presumably those pins, owns DOC's on Lygon St Carlton, Faraday St Carlton and Mornington.  Nino:  From that info your dad could probably give you the history of where those pins were operated, and perhaps who obtained them from him?

When the vacant shop became a shop again, I held hope the machines weren't trashed.  I'm pleased to see someone got them for the purpose of attempting to restore them.


I got the Blue cabinet one and a Hawaii (The other in pic is off the net to show the bat setup) from a house in Brunswick about a year ago, the owner was moving to Mornington. Sorta fits in with your post. Was there a Hawaii there? Here's a pic of it when I put it together.

I need some info on the wooden rails. Nino said they could easily be removed but mine were chiselled off. See photo. Can anyone post a close up of the rail profile or measurements or even better both?


http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13601.0;attach=47704;image
* Photo0003.jpg (482.11 KB, 2048x1536 - viewed 5 times.)
http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13601.0;attach=47706;image
* Photox0052.jpg (606.6 KB, 2048x1536 - viewed 3 times.)

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

Strangeways

Pinball Restoration is my passion
Administrator
Trade Count: (+9)
Pinball Wizard
*****
OfflineOffline

Location: Melbourne
Posts: 12910

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=32750;type=avatar


ABN 68 283 634 461


View ProfileWWWEmailPersonal Message (Offline)

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2015, 08:06:24 AM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Quote from: ddstoys on April 02, 2015, 04:13:25 PM

So are these bingos legal now niño?


To own = Yes.

To operate = No. But there's no one left over from the Gaming and Lottery "squad" that used to seize the machines. They appear on eBay from time to time. 10 years ago they were pulled, but now they are not.

Quote from: Austwide on April 03, 2015, 07:09:35 AM

I recognise these from 70 Lygon Street East Brunswick!

I saw them in storage there about two years ago.  The location was then a vacant downstairs shop downstairs, and a boarding house upstairs for young Italians on working visas (I presume they were legal).

The then owner of the shop, and presumably those pins, owns DOC's on Lygon St Carlton, Faraday St Carlton and Mornington.  Nino:  From that info your dad could probably give you the history of where those pins were operated, and perhaps who obtained them from him?

When the vacant shop became a shop again, I held hope the machines weren't trashed.  I'm pleased to see someone got them for the purpose of attempting to restore them.


I got the Blue cabinet one and a Hawaii (The other in pic is off the net to show the bat setup) from a house in Brunswick about a year ago, the owner was moving to Mornington. Sorta fits in with your post. Was there a Hawaii there? Here's a pic of it when I put it together.

I need some info on the wooden rails. Nino said they could easily be removed but mine were chiselled off. See photo. Can anyone post a close up of the rail profile or measurements or even better both?


Cypress Gardens would have the woodrail configuration. Hawaii is a 70's Bingo and you would need to research the machine to find out if it had both configurations.

http://bingo.cdyn.com/

The chances of finding original woodrail rails - zero - you would need to make a set up.

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged


Aussie Pinball - Proud to be Australia's Premier Pinball Forum

APR - Australian CPR Distributor

http://www.australianpinballrestorations.com.au/

http://www.rtbb.com.au/catalog/

We carry the largest range of NEW Ramps in Australia

Austwide

Trade Count: (0)
Pinball Novice
*
OfflineOffline

Location: Frankston
Posts: 16


View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2015, 08:44:03 AM »

Reply with quoteQuote


The Hawaii has metal ones and is complete.

I am going to make the Cypress Gardens ones, that's why I need the details, size and photos.

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

Brunswick Brawler

Trade Count: (0)
Pinball Expert
****
OfflineOffline

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 110

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=45182;type=avatar



View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2015, 05:23:45 PM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Quote from: Austwide on April 03, 2015, 07:09:35 AM

I got the Blue cabinet one and a Hawaii (The other in pic is off the net to show the bat setup) from a house in Brunswick about a year ago, the owner was moving to Mornington. Sorta fits in with your post. Was there a Hawaii there? Here's a pic of it when I put it together.

I need some info on the wooden rails. Nino said they could easily be removed but mine were chiselled off. See photo. Can anyone post a close up of the rail profile or measurements or even better both?

History
I recall the following:
- Two old machines
- One backless that was shattered, but on in one piece (don't recall which game, or even if the other machine had a glass).
- One was painted Blue, as your photo.
- One had metal rails.
- One was a baseball theme.

...So it was definitely these two.  I'd imagine they were either:
- Operated at 70 Lygon St brunswick a long time ago, But that is a very small shop front. Or
- It may have came from a nearby coffeeshop that a boarder new the coffee shop.  Many of the boarders work in the near by coffee shops and restaurants.

Cafe L'Amore (76 Lygon St Brunswick) was shut down a few years ago, and got merged into neighbouring Gelobar (74 Lygon St Brunswick).  The old classic Cafe L'Amore was gutted and 'renovated'.  Gone is its rear mens private room that was larger then the main public 'front' of the coffee shop.  (I know nothing!).  Up to L'Amore closing down, you could still find old Italian men playing cards at the back, but most wouldn't know there was a room behind that out of the way door.

If the person you bought if from had an Italian accent, I wonder if he resurrected it from the closing of Cafe L'Amore.  If he was Italian looking, slim build, mid 40s, but with an Aussie accent then he was likely the owner of 70 Lygon St boarding house and he could have got the machines from his dad.  Moving to Mornington would mean he was the owner or an employe of Doc's.  The owner had many of his 'of the boat' employees living at 70 Lygon St.  Though the person showing me the machine lived at 70 Lygon, but didn't know whose machines they were.  He had the gall to try and sell them to me not knowing who's they were.  Can trust these greasball Italians!  (It's politically acceptable for me to say that).

Parts
Regarding the wood rail, PBResource sells
replica woodrail for old Gotliebs.  You should be able to route off part of the underside rail if it is to narrow for your cabinet.  Have a look at the following page:

http://www.pbresource.com/siderails.html

« Last Edit: April 03, 2015, 05:50:55 PM by Brunswick Brawler »

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

Austwide

Trade Count: (0)
Pinball Novice
*
OfflineOffline

Location: Frankston
Posts: 16


View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2015, 06:43:40 PM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Very interesting

I think the guys name going by ebay was Carlo Lipari whom I purchased them from, he said he had bought them, I don't know how long earlier.

One backless that was shattered, but on in one piece
I don't know what shattered, but on in one piece means, the only glass with them had the 2 bottom corners broken off but intact with sticky tape.

Thanks for the woodrail link, I get the shape idea but need larger wood to cover the top edges of my cabinet.

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

Brunswick Brawler

Trade Count: (0)
Pinball Expert
****
OfflineOffline

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 110

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=45182;type=avatar



View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2015, 10:48:02 PM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Rail:
I would have thought the wood would be more than wide enough for your edge?  The curved part of the Wood is up facing, now sideways.  It more flat then high.  Only a small edge goes over the glass, with the bulk overhanging the side of the machine.  (It is unlike a metal rail that is high higher than wide.)  The main photo is the correct orientation for the right side of the cabinet - It should sit on the top right edge of the cabinet as photographed.

History:
What I meant by 'shattered, but one piece' was that it had countless cracks on it, and was likely only held together by the artwork 'grey' backing paint.  Given your backglass was essentially in one piece, it means the one I remember as shattered was thrown out.  It was not repairable, but if retained it would have been a reproducible by http://www.greatpinball.com/products.html in Canada.


Carlo Lipari:  I'll ask someone on Sunday if he is the owner, but I think I would have remembered his name if I heard it.  Likely an employee of Doc's.  With a name likely taken from the island of 'Lipari' between mainland Italy and Sicily, would I be guessing right that his was not tall, dark skinned, bowed legs and deep black & think hair?  Its a very small island, with everyone there related to each other!

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

Retropin

Trade Count: (+4)
Pinball Wizard
******
OfflineOffline

Posts: 5443

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/retropin/WottoPics22_zps162fe6fd.jpg


Licensed supplier of Gottlieb cabinet stencils...


View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2015, 06:13:52 AM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Ill measure the wooden rails today... You'll know for sure then

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged


Restoration.... its our business
www.flipperescue.com

Austwide

Trade Count: (0)
Pinball Novice
*
OfflineOffline

Location: Frankston
Posts: 16


View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2015, 09:32:47 AM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Hi Brunswick Brawler

Where these fit on to the cabinet, mine has been hacked away.
At the footrail end, where the cabinet sides are correct, there is a 7 x 10 mm wooden edge sticking up.
Looking at the new rails, the RHS one would normally sit on that as described with the routered section going over the glass and the balance overhanging the side.

The problem is that only a small section of the side has that 7 x 10 edge, and other in sections the wood is up to 15mm below the flat area that the glass sits on. The new wood would be sitting in free air along the majority of the side.

I can either make new rails that can sit over and down the sides of the machine giving me a fixing point and covering the missing wood or try to repair the sides and fit new side rails. I am not sure of my routing ability to do that and any hidden nails will present problems. May have a little play and see how it goes.


http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13601.0;attach=47743;image
* Photo0064x.jpg (538.52 KB, 2048x1536 - viewed 4 times.)

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

Retropin

Trade Count: (+4)
Pinball Wizard
******
OfflineOffline

Posts: 5443

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/retropin/WottoPics22_zps162fe6fd.jpg


Licensed supplier of Gottlieb cabinet stencils...


View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2015, 03:59:03 PM »

Reply with quoteQuote


The wooden rails from PBR need to be cut to length and so will be oversized.

Rails on a STD GTB single player game are:
110mm X 35mm.
Outside edge of rails hang over the cabinet by 15mm leaving 20mm from cabinet edge to inside rail edge

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged


Restoration.... its our business
www.flipperescue.com

Austwide

Trade Count: (0)
Pinball Novice
*
OfflineOffline

Location: Frankston
Posts: 16


View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2015, 06:31:30 AM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Thanks Retropin

I've been looking at a lot of pics on the net, but none really show a good profile of the wooden rails.
The Bally Bingo ones appear as almost round, about 35mm dia with 90 degrees cut out (end profile like a big mouthed pacman). Sort of like the GTB ones if they continued around another 90 degrees on the outside edge.

This would allow them to cover the glass and go down the sides a bit. That would also explain the damaged sides, as removing the GTB profile would be unlikely to damage so far down the side.

Can anyone confirm the profile?

Brunswick Brawler, the guy was 6' tall, didn't look at his legs, dark skinned and black hair.

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

Retropin

Trade Count: (+4)
Pinball Wizard
******
OfflineOffline

Posts: 5443

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/retropin/WottoPics22_zps162fe6fd.jpg


Licensed supplier of Gottlieb cabinet stencils...


View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2015, 07:23:05 AM »

Reply with quoteQuote


They are glued on and a bugger to remove... if not done carefully, then there will be plenty of damage to the cabinet.
Ill take a pic of the profile today. They will be exactly what you are looking for as the rails for the Bingo's would have also been used for the pinball machines... keeps manufacturing costs down


Profile pic  below:


http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/retropin/Rail%20profile_zpssjxi19dq.jpg

« Last Edit: April 06, 2015, 08:07:07 AM by Retropin »

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged


Restoration.... its our business
www.flipperescue.com

Austwide

Trade Count: (0)
Pinball Novice
*
OfflineOffline

Location: Frankston
Posts: 16


View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2015, 08:52:40 AM »

Reply with quoteQuote


This pic shows although not very clearly the woodrails on an old bingo and they seem to be different, what do you think?


http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13601.0;attach=47749;image
* woodrails1.jpg (201.72 KB, 1024x768 - viewed 4 times.)

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

Retropin

Trade Count: (+4)
Pinball Wizard
******
OfflineOffline

Posts: 5443

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/retropin/WottoPics22_zps162fe6fd.jpg


Licensed supplier of Gottlieb cabinet stencils...


View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2015, 09:19:48 AM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Yep... I stand corrected.
They look like a piece of wide dowel with a 90deg cut

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged


Restoration.... its our business
www.flipperescue.com

bingopinballs and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

Top of Form

Brunswick Brawler

Trade Count: (0)
Pinball Expert
****
OfflineOffline

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 110

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=45182;type=avatar



View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2015, 11:27:14 AM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Bingo Websites:
Here you will find links to Bingo games parts suppliers (including rails and backglasses)
www.bingo.cdyn.com
www.danny.cdyn.com

Also if you listen to podcasts, there is a new one that specialises in Bingo games.  They are short daily podcast that have being going for about one month. I got the links above from Episode 2:
www.foramusementonly.libsyn.com

Rail orientation:
The photo you have of the alternate machine is not what I would have expected.  I thought the rails were always 'flat' not 'tall'.  Have a look through the websites above - there is a good chance you will find your two machines.

History:
The person you bought from is not the owner from DOCs (the owners name is tony), but the machines were definitely stored at 70 Lygon St east Brunswick.  I'd like to believe in the nice story that they were obtain from the rear room of the former Cafe L'Amore two doors up.  (The name L'Amore now appears at the top of the front facade of the new building of Gelobar).
Oh well he was tall, but the dark skin is a southern trait. Near enough :).

« Last Edit: April 06, 2015, 11:30:29 AM by Brunswick Brawler »

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

Austwide

Trade Count: (0)
Pinball Novice
*
OfflineOffline

Location: Frankston
Posts: 16


View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2015, 06:54:39 PM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Brunswick Brawler
I am pretty sure they are the ones you saw, too many things line up for it to be otherwise.
I just remembered there was a small wooden crate with some bits in it when I picked them up, was that there or my guy could have added that.

I am going to try some 35mm ish dowel and see how it looks, if no one here knows what they should look like then I figure no one else will notice.

Thanks for all the help so far. With the help, this is going better than expected.

Report to moderator   http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/ip.gifLogged

Brunswick Brawler

Trade Count: (0)
Pinball Expert
****
OfflineOffline

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 110

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=45182;type=avatar



View ProfilePersonal Message (Offline)

Ignore

http://aussiepinball.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif

Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens

« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2015, 07:31:59 PM »

Reply with quoteQuote


Following through 'Danny.cdyn.com' pages here are photos of Cypress Gardens:

http://danny.cdyn.com/cgpa.htm

The flyer on ipdb.org is also consistent with a simple rounded top rail:
http://ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=620&picno=5781

...Be sure to provide updates of your renovation on this post.

Bottom of Form

Bottom of Form

Bottom of Form