…ok, I
am going to have to spend a bit of time editing this page to make it look
pretty, so I will come back`
Looks
like I stole this post right off of J.F’s website or off the MAACA Forum`
I really
like this post and as I reformat it, I will add a bunch of extra notes to tie
this detail
to “how
do the Bingos operate” – JF covers some great modules and detail here`
This is
a wonderful start to build upon`
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Working Bally Show Time
Postby Pindude152 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:42 am
Here's something I
haven't done in a long time... document a bingo repair journey on here.
The project is a 1957 Bally Show Time bingo machine.
Still rockin' fishnets at
60! Don't dream it, be it.
The sister machine to Cypress Gardens, It has "Magic Corners", that
is, Numbers that move when you have the feature lit.
With only 450 units produced, it's a rare bingo machine to come across.
This is my first moving numbers project.
First and foremost, a heartfelt THANK YOU to Xylog for offering me the machine.
This machine has been around on this forum before it ended up in my hands.
Since this Show-Time has a history. I thought it would be fair to document the
repairs here.
Show time front
Anyone recognize this
game?
I started where Rob Xylog left off. I replaced the Mixer motor and put the
mixer cams in order. With the mixer apart, I also changed a couple cam levers.
Mixer motor
Mixer!
I actually had to refer to one of my old posts for the order of the mixer
cams 
I
read somewhere that posting stuff online is a good way to keep useful
information. I guess it works 
Then I replaced the Red button relay coil, the anti-cheat relay coil, the
search relay #1 coil, the #3 search relay cage.
Fortunately I have spare parts on hand 
Bin of spare oparts
Next was the wiring. At the top of the door and on the trip bank, there were a
bunch of wires with the insulation worn out or just crumbling to bits. So I
spliced color matched wires and/or used shrink tubing. shrink tubing. Clean
looking
Trip Bank before
Trip Bank after
Top of the door before
Top of the door after
To be continued...
Last
edited by Pindude152 on Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:25 pm, edited 1
time in total.
"It's
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-The Maltese Falcon
"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I
got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha
"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson
Wanted: Bally 20 hole Bingo machine: Orient, London, Safari, Super 7, Bonus 7
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You
folks friggin' amaze me....'
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Vraiment
Impressionant. Je ne sais pas comment tu fais pour t'y retrouver.
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Postby Pindude152 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:45 pm
Thanks,
Merci.
Pour réparer une bingo, il faut absolument le manuel et les schémas. Ils sont
disponible en ligne gratuitement.
To repair a bingo machine, you absolutely need the manual and schematics. They
are available online for free.
https://bingo.cdyn.com/machines/bally/show_time/
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-The Maltese Falcon
"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I
got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha
"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson
Wanted: Bally 20 hole Bingo machine: Orient, London, Safari, Super 7, Bonus 7
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Postby Woody » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:26 pm
Un autre beau projet. Je serais curieux de savoir sur les 450
produitent initialement combien il en reste...
lâche pas !
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Postby Pindude152 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:14 am
Second
part
First, more thanks.
Thank you to LittleBrutus, who changed all the fuse clips and part of the 120V.
wiring, a long time before I got the machine. It saved me a ton of time... and
fuse clips Nicely done Sir!
Fuse
clips
Thanks also to Rob ShootAgain for giving me a hand reassembling the game at my
place, the head on Show-Time is horrendously heavy.
Back to the repairs... The moving numbers unit
When I got the machine, it was full of hacks. The gear on the motor's output
shaft that drives the whole mechanism was some sort of braised weld hack, A
large spring was in the wrong place, parts were missing. The thing was a bit of
a mess.
Moving
numbers unit before
Part
of a cam lock for a washer
Since Show-Time is a rare game, there are very few pictures of the unit online.
No detailed pictures and I did not find a diagram for the unit. Furthermore, It
seems Bally did changes between models, I have a Cypress Gardens parts machine
with a complete moving numbers unit, but it's different from the one in
Show-Time, even if they are sister machines and the moving numbers feature is
exactly the same. Finally I figured out something that mechanically makes
sense, and more importantly it works, using leather clutch parts like in a
bingo control unit.
Moving
numbers unit AFTER
To be continued...
"It's heavy. What is it? ... The, uh, stuff dreams are made
of"
-The Maltese Falcon
"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I
got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha
"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson
Wanted: Bally 20 hole Bingo machine: Orient, London, Safari, Super 7, Bonus 7
or Hawaii.
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WOW!
Can you explain the moving #s mech in a bit more detail?
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Postby Pindude152 » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:39 pm
cait001 wrote:WOW!
Can you explain the moving #s mech in a bit more detail?
Ok sure, your request is a bit wide ranging so here is a bit of info on the
moving numbers unit. I will indulge the few readers of this thread.
The whole unit is driven by a single motor at the top of the unit. The output
shaft on the drive motor is keyed for a leather clutch system. The gear (not
keyed, so free moving) on the output shaft is sandwiched between the leather
clutch discs and key washers, the whole thing is pressed together by the large
compression spring that causes enough drag to spin the gear. The series of idler
gears transmits to the movement to the whole unit. The A, B, C, D and E gears
drive the magic corners and magic line also have a free gear sandwiched between
leather clutched and Keyed washers that drives a shaft that rotated the number
carousels.
Moving
number unit
Here is a closeup of the motor and drive gear
Motor
and drive gear
Mechanism
1
When you have the feature, pressing the A, B, C, D or E energises a index coil.
There is a switch on the armature plate that closes the circuit to the drive motor
when the coil is energised. The motor starts and is energised as long as the
armature hasn't indexed in one of the notches.
When the motor runs, all the gears on the unit rotate including the A, B, C, D
and E gears, but only the non indexed cams spin the numbers carousels.
Index
coil
The cams are indexed for the numbers to line up with the lit holes.
Indexed
cam
Here is a front view of the unit.
Front
view
Here is a close up the a rotating number carrousel. The screw in the middle can
be undone to remove the whole thing and access the lamps behind. The shaft is
indexed with a small pin. When reassembling the unit, you have to make sure you
put the carousel in the right position, otherwise, the wrong number will light
up.
Rotating
As for the determination of the winning combinations, the search sequence only
"looks" for the 3, 4, and 5 lit sequences. Here is how its expressed
in the manual
Moving
number card
"It's heavy. What is it? ... The, uh, stuff dreams are made
of"
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"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I
got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha
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-Homer Simpson
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Postby cait001 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:47 am
Thank you! I was wondering about those E discs and how they
fit in. The shot with the backglass off displays that perfectly.
Crazy that it is held by a compression string. Does this mean serious
adjustment problems 60+ years down the line for the motor transfer?
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Postby Pindude152 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:11 am
cait001 wrote:Does this mean serious adjustment problems 60+ years down the
line for the motor transfer?
No, it's fairly low stress. The gears aren't worn out. The carousels and index
cams are on a keyed shaft with keyed washers. The leather clutch system is to
transmit movement and avoid breakage if something should jam. The only
adjustment problems that can happen are at reassembly if certain gears for the
"E" line aren't proerly lined up.
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of"
-The Maltese Falcon
"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I
got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha
"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson
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Postby Sparky » Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:06 pm
Nice to see my old girl get some love!!
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Time Fantasy, Freefall, Big Game, BSD, Genesis, Totem, X-Files, Bumper, Marathon,
Queen of Hearts, Lady Luck (Recel), Slapshot retheme pin, Zombie Walk retheme
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pinball, and lots of others in restoration.
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Postby Pindude152 » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:22 pm
A
bit of troubleshooting...
But first, a bit of recap, the mixer motor was changed, the mixer cams were
sorted out, the dodgy wiring was fixed, the 120V section and fuse clips are
sound... time to put the juice on the machine.
I plug the machine in, flick on the switch. tha game is all lit up. So far, so
good.
I coin up the machine: The balls drop to the trough. A ball is served up to the
shooter lane... All is good.
Then I coin up the game a second time: The game does it's spin cycle. I get the
magic square feature and the game locks up. The magic square feature unit step
up coil is locked up energised. That unmistakable buzzing sound. I turn the
game off before the coil fries.
First thing I did was inspect the magic square feature unit disc for obvious
shorts, solder bombs, carbon bridges or anything else weird. The unit's disc
checks out OK.
Then I consult the schematics
Show
Time Bingo Schematics detail
The Magic square step up coil circuit goes through the Selection feature unit
disc...
I have a look at the diagram of the disc in the manual
From
the show time manual
I compare the wiper position on the selection feature unit in the game with the
diagram in the manual. Turns out the wiper was 180 degrees off. I reposition
the wiper and all is good.
Selection
unit wiper in correct position
Now it's time to play the heck out of it to look for bugs, but first I have to
take care of a few details...
"It's heavy. What is it? ... The, uh, stuff dreams are made
of"
-The Maltese Falcon
"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I
got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha
"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson
Wanted: Bally 20 hole Bingo machine: Orient, London, Safari, Super 7, Bonus 7
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Postby Pindude152 » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:26 pm
Other
details...
Like making a replacement ball return panel.
It a tray on which the balls drop on to allow them to roll down to the ball
trough on at the start of a new game.
I don't know what happened to the panel that was in my Show Time but it looks
almost like it was kicked in or something. Anyway it was no good, the balls
would stay stuck on the dent.
I tried replacing it with a later tray from a magic screen game, but those
panels are an inch and a bit shorter than the one used in Show Time. No good.
So I had to make a replacement, here a few pics documenting the process.
"It's heavy. What is it? ... The, uh, stuff dreams are made
of"
-The Maltese Falcon
"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I
got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha
"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson
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Hawaii.
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Postby cait001 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:26 am
So cool, thanks for sharing
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Postby Pindude152 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:23 pm
Other details...
Like cleaning the switches on the shutter motor.
I take out each switch stack, one at a time. I use a mini brass bristle brush
and finish off the points with a flexstone.
Then I re-install the switch stack and actuate the ball shutter cam by hand the
make sure the switches are gapped properly.
With
a switch stack in my hand
I swap out a few more worn out parts
Like this part off one of the magnet assemblies on the reflex unit.
That
notch isn't supposed to be there
The the reflex unit wheel ate right through the pawl! Talk about variation in
metal hardness
Fortunately, I have spare used parts on hand.
Nowadays, looking for replacement bingo parts means looking in junk machines
and plastic totes full of parts from parted out games but back in 1959...
You just had to fill an order form
Here are pages out the Wico 1959 parts catalog: The Bally section is almost all
bingo parts
Those were the days
Wico parts catalogs from the 60's and 70's had bingo machine parts too
Until they were outlawed, bingo machines were good money makers.
Just the fact that parts distributors carried bingo machine parts well into the
80's says a lot. I have a 1988 Banco parts catalogue that had the bingo machine
essentials.
"It's heavy. What is it? ... The, uh, stuff dreams are made
of"
-The Maltese Falcon
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I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I
got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha
"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson
Wanted: Bally 20 hole Bingo machine: Orient, London, Safari, Super 7, Bonus 7
or Hawaii.
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Postby cait001 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:02 pm
love them catalogues, a wealth of info!
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Postby Pindude152 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:06 pm
We
are ready for the floor show!
Testing the Show Time with a handful of Nickels and Yuengling lager on a Friday
night.
A tutorial on how to play this beast is in the works.
"It's heavy. What is it? ... The, uh, stuff dreams are made
of"
-The Maltese Falcon
"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I
got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha
"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson
Wanted: Bally 20 hole Bingo machine: Orient, London, Safari, Super 7, Bonus 7
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Postby Xylog » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:34 am
Grats!
Looks awesome
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Postby R.A.B. » Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:19 am
Pindude152 wrote:We are ready for the floor show!
Testing the Show Time with a handful of Nickels and Yuengling lager on a Friday
night.
A tutorial on how to play this beast is in the works.
20180105_205729.jpg
Amazing detailed work as usual J.F.
You da man for this kind of work and also for digging up technical details in
books and elsewhere to get it as right as possible. This (like pinball) was a
business way before it was a hobby and most collectors forget that and often
spew bullshit on the web about what they think they know and what they think
they understand as some kind of truth. Sometimes it gets scary when they act on
bits of info instead of getting as close as they can to understanding before
taking the tools to the machines. But not you, you have a sense of history and
respect for what came before and use it as a starting point, which is the right
way to understand something from the past. Getting the context around something
that is long gone the closest you can to what it was is the best starting point
for exploring an object or situation from the past and again, increasing the
chances at understanding it with the right mindset. You question and act on the
possible answers with caution and I think that is the best approach. The fact
that you do this with these electro-mechanical computers is something I have a
lot of admiration for and could never find the patience and focus for in my
present context. I live and work in the business side of this industry and it
has for some reason become less colourful to me in 2017.
This is a wonderful mid entry bingo for those who want to get hooked in (pun
intended for those who have looked into the past), my favorite years for bingos
are really "53 to '58 or so. They all got something interesting, but
Showtime and Key West were the most fun bingos I personally ever sat down to
with a roll of nickels and a few beers.
Thanks for extending the bingo machine culture into a later era for which the
actual contextual info is not always so easy to dig up due to that thief time.
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Postby WARLOCK » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:03 pm
Well done J.F. and a great read.
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Postby cait001 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:33 pm
Amazing job. How did the testing go?
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Postby Woody » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:44 pm
Super belle job!
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Postby Pindude152 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:25 am
Thank You Robert for the encouraging words and you support.
Thanks for taking the time to write it here. I appreciate it. I owe you a beer
and a hug. Cheers!
cait001 wrote:Amazing job. How did the testing go?
So far so good. No issues or complaints. It's a fun and addictive game, If you
manage to get the A, B, C, D and E moving numbers and the "Press buttons
AFTER shooting 5th ball" feature, you can really rack up the credits. Get
multiple winning combinations on different colored lines by moving the numbers
around.
Thanks Scott, Rob (Xylog) and Stéphane. Glad you guys followed this little
bingo repair journey.
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of"
-The Maltese Falcon
"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I
got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha
"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson
Wanted: Bally 20 hole Bingo machine: Orient, London, Safari, Super 7, Bonus 7
or Hawaii.
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Awesome work JF!
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Re: Working Bally Show Time Bingo
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Postby Pindude152 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:19 pm
So…
How to play Bally’s Show Time bingo machine
It’…
Let’s start at the very beginning:
A bingo machine is a type of gambling machine that was popular in the 50’s all
the way to the 70’s.
Bingo machines are the games that gave [flipper] pinball a bad name.
Full
Backglass
Playfield
(Yes, I have the wrong SI cards)
The object of a bingo game is to light, by landing 5 or more balls in numbered
pockets, a continuous sequence of 3, 4 or 5 numbers on one of the predetermined
lines on the card to win credits. Won credits are added to the credit meter.
Balls that make it all the way down the playfield and drain are returned to the
shooter lane to shoot again until all 5 balls have landed in a numbered pocket.
Ball
return
Back in the day if you won enough credits, usually 200 or more, you could have
your credits paid out by the manager of the fine establish in which you were
playing. Some games were 5, 10 or 25 cents per credit. That's the dodgy part of
it that made the bingo games illegal. And the fact that they raked in a ton of
money that the government couldn't get their hands on.
Credit
display
To reset the credits back to zero, turning Off the game and back On again would
start a credit reset sequence. The credits rapidly roll back to zero one at a
time.
What makes it a gambling machine is that before shooting your first ball, you
can put in an unlimited number of coins (one at a time) for the chance of
activating (winning) extra features that "improve" your chances of
winning or getting better odds.
Front
of the machine
By odds I mean how many credits the machine will award you if you do get a 3, 4
of 5 in line. Show Time has 8 odds steps ranging from 75 credits for a 5 in
line to 600 credits for the same 5 in line.
1st
and 2nd odd steps
Example: The first odds step
75 credits for a 5 in line
16 credits for a 4 in line
4 credits for a 3 in line
Show Time also has coloured lines. Notice how the lines on the card are either
Red, Yellow or Green. These go with the three coloured sets of odds.
Show
Time Card
Next post, I will go through the features.
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Postby OTTOgd » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:19 pm
Cool.
Have to admit, these bingos seem complicated to play. But I haven't had the
opportunity to try one!
If not too much trouble, please post gameplay videos.
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Re: Working Bally Show Time Bingo
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Postby cait001 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:54 am
I like
that a feature you can enable is hitting the ballyhole (16) for your first
extra ball.
Will be curious to know the rules the upper right "PRess buttons
before/after", like are those activated ONLY by the rollovers (which is a
feature that needs to be lit) or can you just keep using credits and eventually
be awarded those features that would normally have been activated by the
rollovers being qualified?
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Re: Working Bally Show Time Bingo
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Postby Pindude152 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:39 pm
Features of Bally Show
Time:
Magic Squares and Magic Line feature
Magic Square and line
Feature
This is THE main feature of show time. 20 out of 25 numbers can be moved if the
feature is lit. It’s a progressive feature. Meaning that you get the A, B, C, D
and E feature bit by bit. Notice the 4 teaser arrows before the “A”. Once
you’re passed the 4 teaser arrows, you get the A and B magic squares, then with
enough luck and nickels you can work your way up to “E” magic line.
To move the numbers, you press corresponding A, B, C, D and E buttons on the
foot rail.
A, B and C buttons
D and E buttons
Press buttons Before 4th ball / Before 5th Ball / After 5th ball, Red and
Yellow rollovers:
Press buttons
This feature goes with the moving numbers feature. It determines how late in
the game you have the ability to move the numbers around.
It’s another progressive feature. Notice the column of arrows on the left of
the “press buttons” panels.
Before 4th ball:
You can move the numbers until 4th ball enters play
Yellow Rollover:
Lites the yellow star on the bottom left of the backless and the rollover on
the playfield
If you roll over the left rollover you get the “Before 5th Ball” award feature
Yellow roll over
(damaged)
Yellow Star
Red Rollover:
Lites the red star on the bottom right of the backless and the rollover on the
play field
If you roll over it you get the “After 5th Ball” award feature
Red Rollover
Red Star
Before 5th Ball:
You can move the numbers until 5th ball enters play.
After 5th ball:
You can move the numbers until a 6th ball (first extra ball if awarded) enters
play.
cait001
wrote:Will be curious to know the
rules the upper right "PRess buttons before/after", like are those
activated ONLY by the rollovers (which is a feature that needs to be lit) or
can you just keep using credits and eventually be awarded those features that
would normally have been activated by the rollovers being qualified?
Good question… If you pump in enough coins, with a bit of luck, you can get the
Press Buttons after 4th ball or After 5th ball. The feature isn’t exclusively
accessible via the rollovers. It can be awarded outright.
When you first get the moving numbers feature, you get by default the press
buttons before 4th ball panel, unless you already won "upgrades" to
the "Press buttons" feature.
The “Press buttons now panel” flashes to remind you to move your numbers before
the feature is disabled.
Corner scoring: Awarded on a random basis. When the feature is lit hitting
(lighting) all 4 corners of the card scores like a 5 in line with the green
odds. So whatever odd step the green is at, it will pay like a 5 in line.
Corner Scoring and
Ballyhole
Ballyhole: Awarded on a random basis. When this feature is lit, landing a ball
in the #16 hole will award you the first extra ball automatically.
Ballyhole seen through
badly scratched playfield glass
OTTOgd wrote:Cool.
Have to admit, these bingos seem complicated to play. But I haven't had the
opportunity to try one!
If not too much trouble, please post gameplay videos.
Bingos aren’t complicated to play, you just have to know the terminology.
Looking at the features on backglass, you can decode what you have to do.
A video? No chance. There’s already a bunch of bingo videos on the youtube
anyway.
Bingos at Pincon 2018? A big maybe leaning towards No. Really depends on how
the event is set up. I’m not babysitting bingos all weekend long like last
time. Bringing 4 bingos and a pin via minivans was a huge PITA, fortunately I
had some help.
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Postby Pindude152 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:10 pm
Features continued:
Extra balls:
After Shooting all 5 balls you can bet for extra balls (up to 3 extra balls).
After pressing the yellow button, each coin dropped starts a spin cycle for the
chance of progressively lighting "First" then "extra" then
"ball" after which you get an extra ball. A spin cycle can advance by
NO steps, one step or multiple steps. You can repeat this process until you are
awarded all 3 extra balls.
To recapitulate gameplay:
Coin the game until you win a satisfactory number of extra features and good
odds.
Shoot your 5 balls
Play for extra balls in the hope or winning.
Win credits for 3, 4 or 5 in line.
However, this is a gambling machine and the devious purpose of a gambling
machine is to give the player the impression that the chances of winning are
way better than what they actually are. The same applies to bingo machines by
way of proportioning.
Proportioning?
Simply put, the machine gets more tight or more loose depending on odds,
features, and number of credits won, it's not perfectly random.
The probability of features being awarded depends on what the odds are at. The
better the odds are, the tighter the machine is for features.
The probability of odds improving depends on what features are won. The better
the features are, the tighter the machine is for odds.
The probability of extra balls being awarded depends on where the odds are at
and features awarded. The higher the odds and / or features are, the less extra
ball will be awarded.
The odds, features and extra balls depend the number of credits previously won.
The more you win the tighter the machine gets. The more credits you play
without winning, the looser the machine gets.
On top of that Show Time has operator adjustment jacks to make the game
generally tighter or looser for extra balls and corners feature.
The exceptionally astute reader will notice that I purloined a lot of text from
my Surf Club writeup. Apologies. Gotta save time and there's not that many ways
to write about bingo features.
The best feature combination you can land is the A, B, C, D and E feature with
the "Press buttons after 5th ball" feature.
Then it's a credit galore. You can move the same numbers around to get winning
combinations on different colored lines. The same numbers can score winning
combinations in multiple colors. See below.
Notice lit numbers 9, 23 and 24. No winning combinations. But I have the A, B
and C magic square feature lit.
So I move number 9 around using the "A" button, and bingo! I collect
a 3 in line in the Red
Then I move 9 around to the yellow line...
Then I move numbers 23 and 24 to the yellow line and Bingo again! I get a 3 in
line in the yellow
In the end, numbers 9, 23 and 25 won me 48 credits!
Not too shabby 
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Postby Pindude152 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:29 pm
Here's
another example for the magic of Magic Squares
Oh Cool! A 3 in line in the red
Oh wait. I can move numbers 2 and 7 in the C square. 4 in line in the red.
Then I move the numbers around and the same 4 numbers gave me a 4 in line in
the yellow.
Those 4 numbers gave me 74 credits on the meter.
I took the pictures before shooting the 5th ball. I don't remember where it
landed, but it was a crap number. Thus not pictured.
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of"
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got"
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-Homer Simpson
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Postby cait001 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:29 pm
ahhhh that's super cool you can dynamically collect like
that. Makes it a bit of a logic puzzle as well.
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Postby Sparky » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:09 pm
I would still love a bingo machine at home, but I admit that
they are a bit beyond my skillset right now. I might buy a nice working one and
enjoy it, but they are hard to find!
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Re: Working Bally Show Time Bingo
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Postby cait001 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:58 am
Sparky wrote:I would still love a bingo machine at home, but I admit that they
are a bit beyond my skillset right now. I might buy a nice working one and enjoy
it, but they are hard to find!
If I had the room I would just try and offer money to JF to lease me a
different one each year.
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